Ottoman Turkish inscription: Need single word translated

Atlantia · 5th January 2011, 09:16 PM

Well there have been some developments on this, so I thought I'd add them here just in case anyone apart from me is interested

Firstly, in addition to those here who have helped, I need to thank: A. Alnakas, Rahil A., Sancar Ozer and Manouchehr M. Khorasani for their kind help in working on this.

The options now seem to be that it says either 'Shamil Mohammed' or 'Amal-e Mohammed'.

Also, it has been 'featured' on the website of Mr Khorasani.

(just scroll down below the beautiful Tulwar)

LINKY

This sword is a favourite of mine and I think that I now have as much information about it as I'm likely to get.
So essentially I am content now. There is nothing more frustrating than knowing you should be able to solve the clues about a favourite weapon and not being able to do so. I think its important to try and tell their story if you can.
These weapons are the footnotes on the pages of history, albeit inked in blood.

Atlantia · 22nd May 2012, 09:47 PM

Just noticed Manouchehr has revamped his excellent site so my link doesn't work. Here is the new link to my Kindjal

Dom · 23rd May 2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia

Well there have been some developments on this, so I thought I'd add them here just in case anyone apart from me is interested

Firstly, in addition to those here who have helped, I need to thank: A. Alnakas, Rahil A., Sancar Ozer and Manouchehr M. Khorasani for their kind help in working on this.

The options now seem to be that it says either 'Shamil Mohammed' or 'Amal-e Mohammed'.

Hi Atlantia
nothing more than a confirmation for what the other formites, have already said

AMAL MOHAMED either MADE BY MOHAMED

only comment from my translator; very unusual to find a date without the mention "SANA" (year) ...

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Dom

Atlantia · 24th May 2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

Hi Atlantia
nothing more than a confirmation for what the other formites, have already said

AMAL MOHAMED either MADE BY MOHAMED

only comment from my translator; very unusual to find a date without the mention "SANA" (year) ...

à +

Dom

Hi Dom,

Thanks and please extend my gratitude to your 'translator'

You'll have seen that Manouchehr (on his site) also thought it was probobly Mohamed, so I guess thats confirmed now

Excellent to have final confirmation, I'm very fond of this sword.

Best
Gene

mohd · 24th May 2012, 11:45 AM

Hi Atlantia,

This is what I see from the inscriptions.
Anyhow you have to rotate the picture just like the one done by Dom.

عــبــد الــرب ٢/٢/٢٢ = Abdul Rabb 2/2/22 = Abdul Rabb 2nd day of the 2nd month of the year 22

Abdul Rabb which means Servant of The God might be the name of the maker or the name of the owner of the Kinjal.
The 2nd day of the 2nd month of the year 22 might means 2nd of Safar in Hijriyah year of 1322 which is equivalence to Monday 18th of April 1904.
It seems to me that the inscriptions was actually done after the Kinjal finished. That's the reason why the inscriptions was rather badly engraved/scratched.

Just my two cents and I might be wrong

mohd

5th January 2011, 09:16 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Well there have been some developments on this, so I thought I'd add them here just in case anyone apart from me is interested Firstly, in addition to those here who have helped, I need to thank: A. Alnakas, Rahil A., Sancar Ozer and Manouchehr M. Khorasani for their kind help in working on this. The options now seem to be that it says either 'Shamil Mohammed' or 'Amal-e Mohammed'. Also, it has been 'featured' on the website of Mr Khorasani. (just scroll down below the beautiful Tulwar) LINKY This sword is a favourite of mine and I think that I now have as much information about it as I'm likely to get. So essentially I am content now. There is nothing more frustrating than knowing you should be able to solve the clues about a favourite weapon and not being able to do so. I think its important to try and tell their story if you can. These weapons are the footnotes on the pages of history, albeit inked in blood. Last edited by Atlantia; 5th January 2011 at 09:30 PM.

22nd May 2012, 09:47 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Just noticed Manouchehr has revamped his excellent site so my link doesn't work. Here is the new link to my Kindjal

24th May 2012, 11:45 AM	#5
mohd Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 41	Hi Atlantia, This is what I see from the inscriptions. Anyhow you have to rotate the picture just like the one done by Dom. عــبــد الــرب ٢/٢/٢٢ = Abdul Rabb 2/2/22 = Abdul Rabb 2nd day of the 2nd month of the year 22 Abdul Rabb which means Servant of The God might be the name of the maker or the name of the owner of the Kinjal. The 2nd day of the 2nd month of the year 22 might means 2nd of Safar in Hijriyah year of 1322 which is equivalence to Monday 18th of April 1904. It seems to me that the inscriptions was actually done after the Kinjal finished. That's the reason why the inscriptions was rather badly engraved/scratched. Just my two cents and I might be wrong mohd