Unusual shape Chinese?? Spear/ Polearm

Emanuel · 3rd December 2010, 03:40 PM

Hello,

Some time ago a gentleman on another forum posted an identical pole-arm along with a collection of Thai spears. He had purchased all of them in Thailand but could not recognize this blade style in the usual patterns. It came with a scabbard, which I thought was very similar to Indonesian tombak scabbards. This may, of course, just be a case of similar functional solutions than anything else.

Emanuel

Peter Dekker · 3rd December 2010, 04:48 PM

The engraved features on the blade remind me of Vietnamese weapons.

The overall shape is unlike any Chinese, Vietnamese or Thai weapons I've seen so far but the style and workmanship of its decoration certaintly points to the region around Vietnam.

-Peter

Gavin Nugent · 3rd December 2010, 05:07 PM

Welcome Peter, great to see you here :-)

Gav

Peter Dekker · 3rd December 2010, 05:24 PM

Hi,

Glad to be here too! I registered years ago but my account never seemed to work properly, there was something wrong with the permissions. I decided to give it another try today and suddenly noticed it works.

P.S. I got something of you here to wrap. There was some interesting stuff under the wrap, a piece of paper with characters. I'll send pics later, my laptop is currently out for repair so I don't have access to my other mail accounts.

-Peter

Gavin Nugent · 3rd December 2010, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Dekker

Hi,

P.S. I got something of you here to wrap. There was some interesting stuff under the wrap, a piece of paper with characters. I'll send pics later, my laptop is currently out for repair so I don't have access to my other mail accounts.

-Peter

Great news Peter, thanks! Is this the first grip or second grip?

Nathaniel, can you post your better images for all to view, they do from memory show more detail....it may help others solve the riddle???

Gav

Nathaniel · 4th December 2010, 06:23 AM

Thanks for the post guys

Glad to have the conversation going. Peter, I'm glad to hear you agree too with my thoughts on the Vietnamese style engraving. Gavin, I agree...it would be great if there was some more literature on SEA pole weapons.

Here are some of the first pictures I took, Gavin...not the best..little dark:

Gavin Nugent · 24th December 2016, 08:29 AM

Certainly Vietnam from the detailed images...I've been lucky enough to obtain a complete example a few years ago, complete with the armourers chop seal clearly stamped in the blade, although it has the more classical thick steel and ring collar.

3rd December 2010, 05:07 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Welcome Welcome Peter, great to see you here :-) Gav

3rd December 2010, 03:40 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, Some time ago a gentleman on another forum posted an identical pole-arm along with a collection of Thai spears. He had purchased all of them in Thailand but could not recognize this blade style in the usual patterns. It came with a scabbard, which I thought was very similar to Indonesian tombak scabbards. This may, of course, just be a case of similar functional solutions than anything else. Emanuel

3rd December 2010, 04:48 PM	#2
Peter Dekker Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 63	The engraved features on the blade remind me of Vietnamese weapons. The overall shape is unlike any Chinese, Vietnamese or Thai weapons I've seen so far but the style and workmanship of its decoration certaintly points to the region around Vietnam. -Peter

3rd December 2010, 05:24 PM	#4
Peter Dekker Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 63	Hi, Glad to be here too! I registered years ago but my account never seemed to work properly, there was something wrong with the permissions. I decided to give it another try today and suddenly noticed it works. P.S. I got something of you here to wrap. There was some interesting stuff under the wrap, a piece of paper with characters. I'll send pics later, my laptop is currently out for repair so I don't have access to my other mail accounts. -Peter

4th December 2010, 06:23 AM	#6
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Thanks for the post guys Glad to have the conversation going. Peter, I'm glad to hear you agree too with my thoughts on the Vietnamese style engraving. Gavin, I agree...it would be great if there was some more literature on SEA pole weapons. Here are some of the first pictures I took, Gavin...not the best..little dark:

24th December 2016, 08:29 AM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Certainly Vietnam from the detailed images...I've been lucky enough to obtain a complete example a few years ago, complete with the armourers chop seal clearly stamped in the blade, although it has the more classical thick steel and ring collar.