3 Brothers

Sajen · 28th November 2010, 03:58 PM

Hello Kai Wee,

all hilts are very nice and good photographed. The last one from post #1 is clearly from Cirebon/north coast Java (look attached picture).
By the second one I am with you, I've heard that this type of hilt is found in Cirebon and Palembang too but I am not able to differentiate them. I have four hilts of this type in my own collection. And I am with you also that the "c" carving is normally a sign for Cirebon. If you want I can take pictures of my hilts for comparison.
The first hilt is the most interesting one. It have features of the Cirebon rashaksa hilts and also of the jawa demon hilts so it may a connector between both types.
I am also like David not prepared to argue either way if this figure is meant to be garuda or not.

Regards,

Detlef

David · 29th November 2010, 02:36 PM

Well Kai Wee, i see what very well may be a representation of wings in a few of the statues you posted. Others are not positioned to be able to tell. If these hilts in question showed some kind of stylized wings it would definitely reinforce the notion that they might represent Garuda, but they do not so it is still an open question in my book.

28th November 2010, 03:58 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Kai Wee, all hilts are very nice and good photographed. The last one from post #1 is clearly from Cirebon/north coast Java (look attached picture). By the second one I am with you, I've heard that this type of hilt is found in Cirebon and Palembang too but I am not able to differentiate them. I have four hilts of this type in my own collection. And I am with you also that the "c" carving is normally a sign for Cirebon. If you want I can take pictures of my hilts for comparison. The first hilt is the most interesting one. It have features of the Cirebon rashaksa hilts and also of the jawa demon hilts so it may a connector between both types. I am also like David not prepared to argue either way if this figure is meant to be garuda or not. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

29th November 2010, 02:36 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well Kai Wee, i see what very well may be a representation of wings in a few of the statues you posted. Others are not positioned to be able to tell. If these hilts in question showed some kind of stylized wings it would definitely reinforce the notion that they might represent Garuda, but they do not so it is still an open question in my book.