3 Brothers

David · 27th November 2010, 08:28 PM

Nice hilts Kai Wee. I am not prepared to argue either way if this figure is meant to be garuda or not, but i do feel fairly certain that this example of mine is meant to be the very same character as the last few you have shown yet the nose is not nearly as prominent as to be described as a beak.

They also lack what seems to be included in most depictions of garuda that i have seen, some kind of wings, either obvious or stylized.

BluErf · 28th November 2010, 12:37 AM

Which is where these pictures of statues in Jkt's National Museum comes in handy...

BluErf · 28th November 2010, 12:38 AM

2 more.

tunggulametung · 28th November 2010, 11:52 AM

This always an interesting subject, but I think not as simple.
Other than Garuda, Bhima or Yaksha, Gandharva and Vanaspati seems to be other figure worth to mention (the last two are quite popular in Javanese tale). When relate further north (Sumatra/Peninsula Malaysia), as well as Bugis hilt, I sometime thought they depict Islam influence (salah/sholat position like ruku etc) as Islam seems to spread quite early in these areas. Probably also Western/handgun influence although I'm not sure how early it was seen by people in Nusantara.

27th November 2010, 08:28 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Nice hilts Kai Wee. I am not prepared to argue either way if this figure is meant to be garuda or not, but i do feel fairly certain that this example of mine is meant to be the very same character as the last few you have shown yet the nose is not nearly as prominent as to be described as a beak. They also lack what seems to be included in most depictions of garuda that i have seen, some kind of wings, either obvious or stylized. Attached Images

28th November 2010, 12:37 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Which is where these pictures of statues in Jkt's National Museum comes in handy... Attached Images

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BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	2 more. Attached Images

28th November 2010, 11:52 AM	#4
tunggulametung Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 238	This always an interesting subject, but I think not as simple. Other than Garuda, Bhima or Yaksha, Gandharva and Vanaspati seems to be other figure worth to mention (the last two are quite popular in Javanese tale). When relate further north (Sumatra/Peninsula Malaysia), as well as Bugis hilt, I sometime thought they depict Islam influence (salah/sholat position like ruku etc) as Islam seems to spread quite early in these areas. Probably also Western/handgun influence although I'm not sure how early it was seen by people in Nusantara.