Barrel from Grandson battlefield

Matchlock · 21st November 2010, 09:49 PM

A tiller stocked haquebut, wrought iron, Nuremberg, made for Switzerland, ca. 1450, with sinkhole shaped touchhole on the top flat (almost identical items preserved in the Schweizerisches Landesmuseum Zürich).

A good Late Gothic crossbow with composite horn bow, ca. 1460-70.

A finely painted crossbow man's or handgunner's pavise. ca. 1480.

Below a group of newly hafted pikes and earspoon spears, a good Nuremberg bronze haquebut of ca. 1460-70, retaining an old stock, possiby the original.
A detached chamber for a breech loading cannon, ca. 1450-60, and two late 15th c. handgun barrels (sorry, no details available).

Following various firearms, on top a good and early Suhl/Thuringia/Germany made military matchlock musket, the lockplate shaped like that of a wheellock and pretending a higher technical quality than a simple matchlock, the beechwood stock slightly carved in the characteristic Suhl manner, ca. 1610-15.

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Matchlock · 21st November 2010, 10:13 PM

BTW, the barrel on the right looks a lot like the Grandson barrel posted by Alexender, most interestingly showing the same burst in the middle!

Actually it does not seem to be the very same piece because the left barrel loop seems to be missing.

Any comments much welcome as always,
and best as ever,

m

Spiridonov · 22nd November 2010, 06:42 AM

Michael, It is a brilliant finding! This is exactly the same barrel

It is very important for me. 'Cause it probably belongs to Burgundian wars period.

Matchlock · 22nd November 2010, 08:58 PM

Are you really sure, Alexender,

That this is the very same barrel you posted?

If my old eyes are not deceiving me the barrel in the Grandson museum does not seem to have the rear (left) barrel loop, as I marked with the left arrow.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 22nd November 2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

If my old eyes are not deceiving me the barrel in the Grandson museum does not seem to have the rear (left) barrel loop, as I marked with the left arrow.

It seems that this detail has disappeared because photo's quality is too bad

Matchlock · 22nd November 2010, 11:16 PM

You must be right!

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Spiridonov · 23rd November 2010, 11:33 AM

I have great news about these barrel. I am going to post it later.

21st November 2010, 09:49 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A tiller stocked haquebut, wrought iron, Nuremberg, made for Switzerland, ca. 1450, with sinkhole shaped touchhole on the top flat (almost identical items preserved in the Schweizerisches Landesmuseum Zürich). A good Late Gothic crossbow with composite horn bow, ca. 1460-70. A finely painted crossbow man's or handgunner's pavise. ca. 1480. Below a group of newly hafted pikes and earspoon spears, a good Nuremberg bronze haquebut of ca. 1460-70, retaining an old stock, possiby the original. A detached chamber for a breech loading cannon, ca. 1450-60, and two late 15th c. handgun barrels (sorry, no details available). Following various firearms, on top a good and early Suhl/Thuringia/Germany made military matchlock musket, the lockplate shaped like that of a wheellock and pretending a higher technical quality than a simple matchlock, the beechwood stock slightly carved in the characteristic Suhl manner, ca. 1610-15. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd November 2010 at 01:05 AM.

21st November 2010, 10:13 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	BTW, the barrel on the right looks a lot like the Grandson barrel posted by Alexender, most interestingly showing the same burst in the middle! Actually it does not seem to be the very same piece because the left barrel loop seems to be missing. Any comments much welcome as always, and best as ever, m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd November 2010 at 01:09 AM.

22nd November 2010, 06:42 AM	#3
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, It is a brilliant finding! This is exactly the same barrel It is very important for me. 'Cause it probably belongs to Burgundian wars period.

22nd November 2010, 08:58 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Are you really sure, Alexender, That this is the very same barrel you posted? If my old eyes are not deceiving me the barrel in the Grandson museum does not seem to have the rear (left) barrel loop, as I marked with the left arrow. Best, Michael

22nd November 2010, 11:16 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	You must be right! m

23rd November 2010, 11:33 AM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	I have great news about these barrel. I am going to post it later.