Isneg Axe

Nonoy Tan · 17th November 2010, 11:39 PM

Thank you for calling me attention, Spunjer.

I forgot to mention, that the Badon in the phoograph is missing the handle

migueldiaz · 18th November 2010, 12:49 AM

nonoy, thanks for the pics. if you insert the ax below (used to be in rob miller's site, but must have been sold now) in your series, it would appear that we would already have the evolution of the cordillera axe (or if not evolution, the entire spectrum of variation).

VANDOO · 18th November 2010, 05:03 AM

EXCELLENT INFORMATION

HERE ARE 3 DIFFERENT AXES NONE TYPICAL IN FORM. THE FIRST ONE IS RATHER LONG AT 23 INCHES THE OTHER TWO SOMEWHAT SHORT. DO THESE FIT INTO THE BINARAWAD FORM OR ARE THEY SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY? AND IF SO IS IT DUE TO THE SHAPE OF THE BLADES CUTTING EDGE.?

Nonoy Tan · 18th November 2010, 07:56 AM

Hi VANDOO,

In my opinion, the 23" long axe is a form found among the Kalinga and Tinguian. The axe on the photograph at the right is not found in use at all, except as a tourist piece, most likely made by the Ifugao.

The axe with elaborate designs on the ferrule suggests a hybrid of southern Kalinga, eastern Bontok and Christian influence. Is this yours? It is a weird piece.

Nonoy Tan · 18th November 2010, 08:03 AM

Quote:

The axe with elaborate designs on the ferrule suggests a hybrid of southern Kalinga, eastern Bontok and Christian influence. Is this yours? It is a weird piece.

Sorry, I meant western Bontok, not eastern Bontok.

VANDOO · 18th November 2010, 03:06 PM

I SAW THE UNUSUAL AX QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO IN SANTA FE NEW MEXICO. IT WAS VERY WELL MADE AND HAD GOOD AGE AND PATINA THRU-OUT AND WAS A SERVICABLE WEAPON. UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS PRICED VERY HIGH END SO I DIDN'T BUY IT. I HAD ALWAYS THOUGHT OF THIS FORM AS BONTOK BECAUSE THEY USUALLY SEEM TO HAVE SHORT HANDLES AND WIDE BLADES LACKING THE WELL CURVED EDGE OF THE KALINGA AX AND HAVING A MORE EVEN EDGE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY AX LIKE IT AND THE DESIGN CUT INTO THE BLADE WAS VERY WELL DONE ALMOST LOOKING LIKE A DAYAK TATOO.
ARE ANY OF THESE AXES STILL IN USE FOR WORK OR CEREMONY IN THE PHILIPPINES?

kai · 18th November 2010, 08:08 PM

Thanks, Nonoy, for the valuable info! (And others for chiming in

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18th November 2010, 12:49 AM	#2
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	nonoy, thanks for the pics. if you insert the ax below (used to be in rob miller's site, but must have been sold now) in your series, it would appear that we would already have the evolution of the cordillera axe (or if not evolution, the entire spectrum of variation). Attached Images

18th November 2010, 05:03 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	EXCELLENT INFORMATION HERE ARE 3 DIFFERENT AXES NONE TYPICAL IN FORM. THE FIRST ONE IS RATHER LONG AT 23 INCHES THE OTHER TWO SOMEWHAT SHORT. DO THESE FIT INTO THE BINARAWAD FORM OR ARE THEY SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY? AND IF SO IS IT DUE TO THE SHAPE OF THE BLADES CUTTING EDGE.? Attached Images

17th November 2010, 11:39 PM	#1
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Thank you for calling me attention, Spunjer. I forgot to mention, that the Badon in the phoograph is missing the handle

18th November 2010, 07:56 AM	#4
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Hi VANDOO, In my opinion, the 23" long axe is a form found among the Kalinga and Tinguian. The axe on the photograph at the right is not found in use at all, except as a tourist piece, most likely made by the Ifugao. The axe with elaborate designs on the ferrule suggests a hybrid of southern Kalinga, eastern Bontok and Christian influence. Is this yours? It is a weird piece.

18th November 2010, 03:06 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I SAW THE UNUSUAL AX QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO IN SANTA FE NEW MEXICO. IT WAS VERY WELL MADE AND HAD GOOD AGE AND PATINA THRU-OUT AND WAS A SERVICABLE WEAPON. UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS PRICED VERY HIGH END SO I DIDN'T BUY IT. I HAD ALWAYS THOUGHT OF THIS FORM AS BONTOK BECAUSE THEY USUALLY SEEM TO HAVE SHORT HANDLES AND WIDE BLADES LACKING THE WELL CURVED EDGE OF THE KALINGA AX AND HAVING A MORE EVEN EDGE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY AX LIKE IT AND THE DESIGN CUT INTO THE BLADE WAS VERY WELL DONE ALMOST LOOKING LIKE A DAYAK TATOO. ARE ANY OF THESE AXES STILL IN USE FOR WORK OR CEREMONY IN THE PHILIPPINES?

18th November 2010, 08:08 PM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Thanks, Nonoy, for the valuable info! (And others for chiming in )