Kris/Sundang just finished on ebay.

[Battara]

Originally Posted by David

Actually, i have read that in Maranao the "correct" name for a kris with a straight blade is Sundang Espada.

The only problem with this term is that the last word "espada" is Spanish, not Maranao. I have never heard this term before, though sundang would not surprise me.

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Battara

The only problem with this term is that the last word "espada" is Spanish, not Maranao. I have never heard this term before, though sundang would not surprise me.

Am looking at the Maranao-English dictionary that Nonoy Tan lent me.

Can't find the specific term for a straight-blade kris, however. But on a related matter, here are the Maranao terms for 'sword':

Sword: diaoaq, inalongan panampao, karis [i.e., kalis or kris], koiang, ledao, maindan, minar, miros, panangan, pedang, pinotiq, sarab

Sword or fighting knife of Sulu: kalis

Sword or kris with wavy blade: lingiq

Sword used for fighting, has straight edge: kampilan

Sword--card game: ispada

Sword--either wavy or straight blade: sondang

Sword--samurai: pedang a apon [i.e., pedang of the 'Hapon', or Japanese]

Sword--two-bladed and curved along entire length: sikoq

Sword--wooden: kaboran

[David]

Originally Posted by Battara

The only problem with this term is that the last word "espada" is Spanish, not Maranao. I have never heard this term before, though sundang would not surprise me.

That may well be so José. I first encountered these tribal language differences on Federico's Moro site... http://home.earthlink.net/~federicom...o/diagram.html ... and recently found this on the web. I cannot attest to it's accuracy though

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by David

That may well be so José. I first encountered these tribal language differences on Federico's Moro site... http://home.earthlink.net/~federicom...o/diagram.html ... and recently found this on the web. I cannot attest to it's accuracy though

David, thanks for posting the pic. I was actually the one who made that illustration. The references I used were Cato's Moro Swords, and the Summer Institute of Linguistics' (SIL) Tausug-English Dictionary.

One of these days, I'll go down to Maranaw territory and look for a professor who can validate these terminologies. In the meantime, I suppose Cato and SIL are reliable sources. Thus we can rest assured that the terms are ok.