How late 15th to mid 16th century guns were aimed, in historic illustrations

Spiridonov · 14th November 2010, 09:59 AM

From Karls picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/karl.perron
there are mistake in the title of authors photos. I think that it is a late 15 century but not a late 14 century

Matchlock · 14th November 2010, 05:07 PM

Brilliant, Alexander,

Thanks a lot for sharing these!

And: you're right of course, these are can be dated to ca. 1470-80.

Best,
Michael

fernando · 14th November 2010, 05:14 PM

Outstanding, Alexander

Spiridonov · 14th November 2010, 06:15 PM

We can see even touch holes on the barrels:

fernando · 14th November 2010, 06:21 PM

Yes, an extremely detailed work; right, Michl?

Matchlock · 14th November 2010, 10:04 PM

Right, Alexender and 'Nando,

As usual, though, the act of ignition is left to imagination ...

That detail on early firearms just did not seem worth showing to period artists, at least normally not before ca. 1500.
Of course, exceptions prove the rule, especially in the early 15th century.

Characteristic of Spain, these obviously are details of carved oak Toledo choir stalls.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 16th November 2010, 01:05 PM

I think that these pictures was drawn later than 1492 year. We can see the inscription "ALHAMA" on the tower. It means that we see siege of Alham(b)ra at these pictury. The siege of Alham(b)ra was in 1492 year. So, I think that these picture was drawn between 1492 and 1500 years.

14th November 2010, 09:59 AM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	From Karls picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/karl.perron there are mistake in the title of authors photos. I think that it is a late 15 century but not a late 14 century Last edited by Spiridonov; 14th November 2010 at 10:17 AM.

14th November 2010, 06:15 PM	#4
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	We can see even touch holes on the barrels: Attached Images

16th November 2010, 01:05 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	I think that these pictures was drawn later than 1492 year. We can see the inscription "ALHAMA" on the tower. It means that we see siege of Alham(b)ra at these pictury. The siege of Alham(b)ra was in 1492 year. So, I think that these picture was drawn between 1492 and 1500 years. Attached Images Last edited by Spiridonov; 16th November 2010 at 01:20 PM.

14th November 2010, 05:07 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Brilliant, Alexander, Thanks a lot for sharing these! And: you're right of course, these are can be dated to ca. 1470-80. Best, Michael

14th November 2010, 05:14 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Outstanding, Alexander

14th November 2010, 06:21 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Yes, an extremely detailed work; right, Michl?

14th November 2010, 10:04 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Right, Alexender and 'Nando, As usual, though, the act of ignition is left to imagination ... That detail on early firearms just did not seem worth showing to period artists, at least normally not before ca. 1500. Of course, exceptions prove the rule, especially in the early 15th century. Characteristic of Spain, these obviously are details of carved oak Toledo choir stalls. Best, Michael