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Old 20th June 2005, 03:08 AM   #1
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Question Help ID this Khanjar

Several years ago I came across a couple old-looking swords that were my great uncle's. He died in 1979, and since he's neither Javanese nor Arabic, I have no idea how he happened upon them.

Attached are several pictures of what I believe is a Khanjar. I haven't seen any on the internet that look quite like it. It looks as though some kind of language on the belt. I'm new at this, and find it all very exciting! If someone could help me locate its origin and age it, I'd really appreciate it. I have a keris as well that is in better physical condition.

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Old 20th June 2005, 03:25 AM   #2
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Your dagger is a jambiya from Yemen They are worn by all males in that society as a symbol of status.


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Old 20th June 2005, 03:49 AM   #3
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Hi,

Ditto what Lew says, and the belt is in good shape, which is rare. You might see these in other parts of the Arabian peninsula as well. The language on the belt is arabic.
Can you provide closer pics of the scabbard? That's where the workmanship is best seen on these.

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Old 20th June 2005, 05:14 AM   #4
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Very nice, and wider than many I've seen.

There's a possibility that the handle is Rhino horn; you have to look at it VERY close up, preferably with a magnifying lens.There's a fibrous quality to the rhino horn that is very particular.


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Old 20th June 2005, 01:07 PM   #5
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The attached pictures are the best I can do for now, as the sword itself is at my mother's house. Is there a way I can safely clean this Jambiya?

The hilt is most definitely some kind of bone. Are there rhinos in Yemen?

Thanks a lot for your help. This is very cool. Any age estimates?

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Old 20th June 2005, 02:38 PM   #6
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As already correctly said, this is a Jambiya (more properly should be called Jannabiya), from Yemen, probably made in Sana’a in the turn off the 20th C. These dagger are common to Yemen only and I do not think that they spread much out, like the Omani Khanjars which are found all over the Arabian peninsula. Good old wide blade. The handle is most probably Rhinoceros horn as mentioned above (difficult to decide from the photo). Rhino horns for grips was very much sought after in Yemen as well as in the neighboring countries because of the belief in its aphrodisiac qualities. This demand was one of the major factors in the almost extinction of Rhinos from East Africa - The major source for supply of Rhino horns to Yemen. The demands still exist today. Similar daggers, with Rhino horn grips but with lesser quality blade are still made and sold today in the bazaars of Sana’a, and in spite the strict trade regulation, Rhinos are still being killed for their horns.

The name Khanjar is more common for daggers in Oman and the Gulf countries.
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Old 20th June 2005, 08:06 PM   #7
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I saw a lot of these in the UAE, but after thinking about it most if not all were offered for sale by Yemeni dealers........

A comment/ question: "khanjar" is a hindi word adopted in the gulf over time, is it not?
Jambiya is arabic (means "side dagger") and the two are used interchangeably there, as far as I could tell.

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As already correctly said, this is a Jambiya (more properly should be called Jannabiya), from Yemen, probably made in Sana’a in the turn off the 20th C. These dagger are common to Yemen only and I do not think that they spread much out, like the Omani Khanjars which are found all over the Arabian peninsula. Good old wide blade. The handle is most probably Rhinoceros horn as mentioned above (difficult to decide from the photo). Rhino horns for grips was very much sought after in Yemen as well as in the neighboring countries because of the belief in its aphrodisiac qualities. This demand was one of the major factors in the almost extinction of Rhinos from East Africa - The major source for supply of Rhino horns to Yemen. The demands still exist today. Similar daggers, with Rhino horn grips but with lesser quality blade are still made and sold today in the bazaars of Sana’a, and in spite the strict trade regulation, Rhinos are still being killed for their horns.

The name Khanjar is more common for daggers in Oman and the Gulf countries.
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In Oman the men wear a decorative or leather belt and ‘Khanjar’( slightly curved dagger) round their waist . In the Yemen the men wear the ‘Jambiya’ , a belt and dagger , the sheath of which can be curved upwards at an almost 90 degree angle. These daggers are very beautiful
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jambiya
Ceremonial dagger
Housing Minister of Yemen
to the President of Islamic Republic of IRAN





Dagger - Oman

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