Chillanum for comment

VANDOO · 7th November 2010, 03:12 PM

CONGRATS! A VERY NICE PAIR AND IT SHOWS A DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY OF WORKMANSHIP AS WELL AS SIZE. ONE BEING LESS ORNATE AND THUS PERHAPS LESS EXPENSIVE?? WHICH ONE LOOKS TO BE THE OLDEST TO YOU?
ONE THING THAT STRIKES ME ABOUT THESE TWO IS THE HANDLES BOTH OF THEM CAN BE LOOKED AT AS PERHAPS SHAPED LIKE A MAN IN AN ABSTRACT WAY. THE POMMEL AS HEAD THE TOP TWO GAURDS AS ARMS AND THE LOWER TWO AS THE LEGS. THIS IS SEEN IN SOME ANCIENT DAGGERS AND SOME SWORDS FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES. PERHAPS SOMETHING HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN SOME REFRENCE?

archer · 8th November 2010, 02:01 AM

Vandoo, They both probably can be attributed to Arkbars reign late 16th to early 17th century. I really don't know ages. The smaller was more for utility. The larger with the knuckle guard was more prized and probably better cared for over the ages. Gene had mentioned the design on the fortes of his katar and the larger Chillanum type. I have read that they represent A lotus flower, as do the Chillanum pommels. The wings being the petals and the finial a bud. They do look weird at first glance. Here's a link with more photos and info:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bichwa

Steve

8th November 2010, 02:01 AM	#2
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Response Vandoo, They both probably can be attributed to Arkbars reign late 16th to early 17th century. I really don't know ages. The smaller was more for utility. The larger with the knuckle guard was more prized and probably better cared for over the ages. Gene had mentioned the design on the fortes of his katar and the larger Chillanum type. I have read that they represent A lotus flower, as do the Chillanum pommels. The wings being the petals and the finial a bud. They do look weird at first glance. Here's a link with more photos and info: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bichwa Steve

7th November 2010, 03:12 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRATS! A VERY NICE PAIR AND IT SHOWS A DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY OF WORKMANSHIP AS WELL AS SIZE. ONE BEING LESS ORNATE AND THUS PERHAPS LESS EXPENSIVE?? WHICH ONE LOOKS TO BE THE OLDEST TO YOU? ONE THING THAT STRIKES ME ABOUT THESE TWO IS THE HANDLES BOTH OF THEM CAN BE LOOKED AT AS PERHAPS SHAPED LIKE A MAN IN AN ABSTRACT WAY. THE POMMEL AS HEAD THE TOP TWO GAURDS AS ARMS AND THE LOWER TWO AS THE LEGS. THIS IS SEEN IN SOME ANCIENT DAGGERS AND SOME SWORDS FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES. PERHAPS SOMETHING HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN SOME REFRENCE?