13th century sword - Swiss made?

cornelistromp · 31st October 2010, 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=Jim McDougall]Thank you so much Cornelis! Absolutely outstanding and detailed description, and for clarifying these. My knowledge on this field is admittedly limited, and I feel lucky to have gotten that close in the hours of research before I wrote my post!!

Hi Jim,
this is a yoke, there is nobody I know in the field (and that are a lot of people) with your wide orientated amount of knowledge of antique arms.
Concerning early swords ,as you know, there is only 1 theory/work of classification that makes us understand the shape of a sword in a period and the reason for that shape.for a quick refresh-course in a day; there is a splendid book from oakeshott "sword in hand" (absolutely his best work) a series of articles originally published in Gun report magazine.

kind regards from Holland

Jim McDougall · 31st October 2010, 05:42 PM

Thank you for such kind words Cornelis! and thank you for the heads up on the Oakeshott articles. I dont have my other books by him on hand, but when on this subject material by him is by far the best for quick study to get up to speed. He has an easy to read, interpretive style which makes it often seem as if he is just talking to you in a conversation.

All the very best,
Jim

Matchlock · 31st October 2010, 07:44 PM

My expert friend Ottmar assigns this knightly sword to ca. 1250, the blade probably being broken during battle. It is of Italian type, the marks cannot be any better identified as has been expertly done here.

Best,
Michael

31st October 2010, 09:08 AM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	[QUOTE=Jim McDougall]Thank you so much Cornelis! Absolutely outstanding and detailed description, and for clarifying these. My knowledge on this field is admittedly limited, and I feel lucky to have gotten that close in the hours of research before I wrote my post!! Hi Jim, this is a yoke, there is nobody I know in the field (and that are a lot of people) with your wide orientated amount of knowledge of antique arms. Concerning early swords ,as you know, there is only 1 theory/work of classification that makes us understand the shape of a sword in a period and the reason for that shape.for a quick refresh-course in a day; there is a splendid book from oakeshott "sword in hand" (absolutely his best work) a series of articles originally published in Gun report magazine. kind regards from Holland

31st October 2010, 05:42 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,459	Thank you for such kind words Cornelis! and thank you for the heads up on the Oakeshott articles. I dont have my other books by him on hand, but when on this subject material by him is by far the best for quick study to get up to speed. He has an easy to read, interpretive style which makes it often seem as if he is just talking to you in a conversation. All the very best, Jim

31st October 2010, 07:44 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	My expert friend Ottmar assigns this knightly sword to ca. 1250, the blade probably being broken during battle. It is of Italian type, the marks cannot be any better identified as has been expertly done here. Best, Michael