A Very Nice Dagger

Atlantia · 23rd October 2010, 08:16 PM

Will it be joining your collection soon Robert?
Its a beauty. Rather gothic!

Robert · 23rd October 2010, 09:12 PM

Lew and Gene, Thank you both for your comments. It is on its way now to join the rest of my collection. I hope to post better pictures after it arrives and the actual measurements as well.

Robert

Atlantia · 23rd October 2010, 09:27 PM

Its a wonderful 'cocktail' of styles. The engraving is superb. I love the shape and overall form of the dagger. It brings to mind so many things, even the quillions immediately made me think of a mid 19thC bandsmans sword. I'm sure its coincidental, but I find these similarities interesting.

What can you tell us about its history/origins Robert?

Battara · 23rd October 2010, 10:08 PM

Although the blade doesn't, the rest of it looks Luzono, perhaps first republic Philippines, perhaps belonging to an officer. Which auction? I missed that one.

Robert · 23rd October 2010, 10:42 PM

Gene,
It does have a nice mix of styles doesn't it. That's one of the things that I thought interesting about it.
Jose,
The blade is a bit of an odd bird but I do have another Philippine dagger and a sword with similar blade styles. I will post a picture of the dagger below as I would like to find a little more information on it also as it looks to be of Visayans construction instead of Luzon. I was wondering about the sun on the scabbard of this dagger not being inside a triangle as most that I have seen have been? As far as age, I was thinking 1895-1900? What would be you thoughts on this?

Robert

Battara · 24th October 2010, 07:21 AM

After thinking about it a little more, I would guess that it were perhaps 1895-1897. I say this because the Malaysian sun was used by some Katipunan groups.

If it were inside the triangle and had 3 stars, it would be during the 1st republic (1898-1901).

The last one I would agree looks somewhat Visayan.

Robert · 24th October 2010, 07:39 AM

Thank you for your thoughts on the dating Jose. Now, if only it were only possible to identify who it might have belonged to by the initials I would be ecstatic.

Robert

23rd October 2010, 09:27 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Its a wonderful 'cocktail' of styles. The engraving is superb. I love the shape and overall form of the dagger. It brings to mind so many things, even the quillions immediately made me think of a mid 19thC bandsmans sword. I'm sure its coincidental, but I find these similarities interesting. What can you tell us about its history/origins Robert? Attached Images

23rd October 2010, 10:42 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Gene, It does have a nice mix of styles doesn't it. That's one of the things that I thought interesting about it. Jose, The blade is a bit of an odd bird but I do have another Philippine dagger and a sword with similar blade styles. I will post a picture of the dagger below as I would like to find a little more information on it also as it looks to be of Visayans construction instead of Luzon. I was wondering about the sun on the scabbard of this dagger not being inside a triangle as most that I have seen have been? As far as age, I was thinking 1895-1900? What would be you thoughts on this? Robert Attached Images

24th October 2010, 07:39 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Thank you for your thoughts on the dating Jose. Now, if only it were only possible to identify who it might have belonged to by the initials I would be ecstatic. Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 24th October 2010 at 08:17 AM.

23rd October 2010, 08:16 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Will it be joining your collection soon Robert? Its a beauty. Rather gothic!

23rd October 2010, 09:12 PM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Lew and Gene, Thank you both for your comments. It is on its way now to join the rest of my collection. I hope to post better pictures after it arrives and the actual measurements as well. Robert

23rd October 2010, 10:08 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Although the blade doesn't, the rest of it looks Luzono, perhaps first republic Philippines, perhaps belonging to an officer. Which auction? I missed that one.

24th October 2010, 07:21 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	After thinking about it a little more, I would guess that it were perhaps 1895-1897. I say this because the Malaysian sun was used by some Katipunan groups. If it were inside the triangle and had 3 stars, it would be during the 1st republic (1898-1901). The last one I would agree looks somewhat Visayan.