Ulas a weekly sight?

Tim Simmons · 17th October 2010, 08:32 PM

Are these that rare? £1021!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

£560!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Wait a while and i will save pictures for future reference.

The knobly one is the one that went for £1021

Sajen · 17th October 2010, 10:24 PM

Hello, they are not so very rare but highly priced. I have followed both and thought before that they will get a good price. Both have a great patination and a very nice shape.

Best,

Detlef

Gavin Nugent · 18th October 2010, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello, they are not so very rare but highly priced. I have followed both and thought before that they will get a good price. Both have a great patination and a very nice shape.

Best,

Detlef

Highly prized indeed!!! Watch what price bidding gets opened at in a good EU auction house.
I have three good old ones and they are a beautiful feel in the hand and lovely to touch. I'd love more!!!

Gav

Tim Simmons · 18th October 2010, 11:55 AM

Yes they are nice things but I have to say quite common really. I have one, does not have handle decoration. However purchased for less than a 10th of the cheaper example shown i rather like it. I just think the prices are wildly out off the scale.

Gavin Nugent · 18th October 2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Yes they are nice things but I have to say quite common really. I have one, does not have handle decoration. However purchased for less than a 10th of the cheaper example shown i rather like it. I just think the prices are wildly out off the scale.

Yes Tim, there are many, but like all weapons, there are examples and there are examples.

Gav

VANDOO · 18th October 2010, 05:28 PM

THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBILITES TO EXPLAIN WHY THERE SEEM TO BE MORE OF THE SMALLER ULA THROWING CLUBS.
1. WARRIORS OFTEN CARRIED ONE BIG CLUB AND SEVERAL ULA.(SEE PICTURE AT LEAST THREE)
2. THEY WERE THROWN AND OFTEN LOST BY THE SIDE WHO LOST THE BATTLE AND RAN FOR IT. NO DOUBT THE WINNERS PICKED THEM UP. THE LOSERS MOST LIKELY DID NOT ABANDON THEIR LARGE CLUBS BUT WERE FORCED TO MAKE MORE ULA FOR THE NEXT BATTLE.
3. IN ENCOUNTERS BETWEEN FORIGNERS WITH GUNS IT WOULD BE MUCH THE SAME AND THE SMALLER CLUBS WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY TO PUT IN A SEA CHEST AND TAKE HOME.
4. SO MORE WERE MADE, MORE WERE LOST AND THEY WERE EASIER TO CARRY A FEW HOME. PLUS THEY WERE MORE DANGEROUS TO THOSE WITH GUNS AS THEY WERE SAID TO BE THROWN WITH GREAT FORCE AND ACCURACY.
SOME ARE VERY PRETTY AND AS YOU WILL SEE IN THESE PICTURES MAKE AN ATTRACTIVE DISPLAY A BOQUET OF CLUBS IF YOU WILL.

THERE WERE A FEW FORMS AND SOME WERE INLAYED WITH MARINE IVORY OR TEETH HUMAN AND OTHERWISE. THERE WERE DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES AND A FORM WITH A CROOKED HANDLE. THE HOLLOW AT THE END OF THE HANDLE MAY HAVE HELD AN IVORY INLAY BUT IF SO MOST ARE MISSING FROM THOSE I HAVE SEEN.

Tim Simmons · 18th October 2010, 06:38 PM

I can make mine look shiny too. Plus picture from "Fijian Artifacts, Tasmanian Museum and art gallery collection" note the one with the plain handle on the far right.

asomotif · 19th October 2010, 06:27 PM

Hello Tim,

These Ula's are also appreciated by ethnographic art lovers.

Last year in Paris I saw a gallery where the Ula's where stored in a large basket with at least 15 pieces. prices around EUR 1100 a piece if I remember well. But may well have been 1600. The sky is the limit.

They are not rare, but obviously sought after by people with money

Lew · 19th October 2010, 09:15 PM

Tim

I'm pretty sure if you keep an eye out you can pick one up on ebay for $300-450. Good hunting my friend.

Clubs & Arrows · 20th October 2010, 08:08 PM

Hi Tim,
A finely carved Tavatava grip will always increase the Ula's price. Sometimes up to 2 or 3 times that of an undecorated one. There are so many people watching these things on ebay (myself included), that it's usually more worthwhile to check the local Antique Shows and Antique Stores for artifacts like these.

Best regards,
Joe

graeme gt · 21st October 2010, 05:00 PM

Hi Tim,Cant wait for knobkerries to reach these prices.

Lew · 21st October 2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graeme gt

Hi Tim,Cant wait for knobkerries to reach these prices.

Bite your tongue!

Royston · 21st October 2010, 07:07 PM

I had a really nice one with a large head and carved handle. Sold it 15 years ago - for £20

17th October 2010, 08:32 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Ulas a weekly sight? Are these that rare? £1021!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT £560!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT Wait a while and i will save pictures for future reference. The knobly one is the one that went for £1021 Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 17th October 2010 at 09:04 PM.

18th October 2010, 11:55 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Yes they are nice things but I have to say quite common really. I have one, does not have handle decoration. However purchased for less than a 10th of the cheaper example shown i rather like it. I just think the prices are wildly out off the scale. Attached Images

18th October 2010, 05:28 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBILITES TO EXPLAIN WHY THERE SEEM TO BE MORE OF THE SMALLER ULA THROWING CLUBS. 1. WARRIORS OFTEN CARRIED ONE BIG CLUB AND SEVERAL ULA.(SEE PICTURE AT LEAST THREE) 2. THEY WERE THROWN AND OFTEN LOST BY THE SIDE WHO LOST THE BATTLE AND RAN FOR IT. NO DOUBT THE WINNERS PICKED THEM UP. THE LOSERS MOST LIKELY DID NOT ABANDON THEIR LARGE CLUBS BUT WERE FORCED TO MAKE MORE ULA FOR THE NEXT BATTLE. 3. IN ENCOUNTERS BETWEEN FORIGNERS WITH GUNS IT WOULD BE MUCH THE SAME AND THE SMALLER CLUBS WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY TO PUT IN A SEA CHEST AND TAKE HOME. 4. SO MORE WERE MADE, MORE WERE LOST AND THEY WERE EASIER TO CARRY A FEW HOME. PLUS THEY WERE MORE DANGEROUS TO THOSE WITH GUNS AS THEY WERE SAID TO BE THROWN WITH GREAT FORCE AND ACCURACY. SOME ARE VERY PRETTY AND AS YOU WILL SEE IN THESE PICTURES MAKE AN ATTRACTIVE DISPLAY A BOQUET OF CLUBS IF YOU WILL. THERE WERE A FEW FORMS AND SOME WERE INLAYED WITH MARINE IVORY OR TEETH HUMAN AND OTHERWISE. THERE WERE DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES AND A FORM WITH A CROOKED HANDLE. THE HOLLOW AT THE END OF THE HANDLE MAY HAVE HELD AN IVORY INLAY BUT IF SO MOST ARE MISSING FROM THOSE I HAVE SEEN. Attached Images

18th October 2010, 06:38 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	I can make mine look shiny too. Plus picture from "Fijian Artifacts, Tasmanian Museum and art gallery collection" note the one with the plain handle on the far right. Attached Images

17th October 2010, 10:24 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	Hello, they are not so very rare but highly priced. I have followed both and thought before that they will get a good price. Both have a great patination and a very nice shape. Best, Detlef

19th October 2010, 06:27 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Hello Tim, These Ula's are also appreciated by ethnographic art lovers. Last year in Paris I saw a gallery where the Ula's where stored in a large basket with at least 15 pieces. prices around EUR 1100 a piece if I remember well. But may well have been 1600. The sky is the limit. They are not rare, but obviously sought after by people with money

19th October 2010, 09:15 PM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim I'm pretty sure if you keep an eye out you can pick one up on ebay for $300-450. Good hunting my friend.

20th October 2010, 08:08 PM	#10
Clubs & Arrows Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California Posts: 94	Hi Tim, A finely carved Tavatava grip will always increase the Ula's price. Sometimes up to 2 or 3 times that of an undecorated one. There are so many people watching these things on ebay (myself included), that it's usually more worthwhile to check the local Antique Shows and Antique Stores for artifacts like these. Best regards, Joe

21st October 2010, 05:00 PM	#11
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Hi Tim,Cant wait for knobkerries to reach these prices.

21st October 2010, 07:07 PM	#13
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	I had a really nice one with a large head and carved handle. Sold it 15 years ago - for £20