Philippine weapons in Spanish museums

celtan · 3rd October 2010, 01:18 AM

Pretties!

All from the mid-late 19th C. Own several of these.

Thanks L !

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Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Hola, Manuel! Not much, as I there were a lot of items, and I focused on Phil. weapons.

Below are pics of some of those few ones I was able to take. Regards.

migueldiaz · 3rd October 2010, 10:01 PM

Marc, muchas gracias!

Gav, glad I can contribute to the body of knowledge. But the real thanks should go to the subject museums because they are very generous and helpful.

Vandoo, thanks for those insights.

Reichsritter, your expertise in Moro genealogies among others is surely well appreciated.

Manuel, the pics below are from the Victor Balaguer museum. The weapons sit side by side with the cabinets containing Filipino weapons. Would they be Spanish?

Thanks again to all.

celtan · 23rd October 2010, 04:27 PM

Yes, they are!

: ) : ) : )

Pretties!

Gracias L

M

Quote:

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Manuel, the pics below are from the Victor Balaguer museum. The weapons sit side by side with the cabinets containing Filipino weapons. Would they be Spanish?

Thanks again to all.

Marc · 25th October 2010, 01:15 PM

Well... Spanish, potentially Spanish or Spanish colonial, yes, I agree with Manuel.
The axe is probably the most contentious one, and the dagger is a figurative 19th c. exemplar, generically "European".
Can't blame the people at the museum for not being more specific, they are probably doing their best, and this is, after all, a specialized knowledge.

migueldiaz · 29th June 2011, 08:28 AM

about that rattan 'club'[?] above, i stumbled upon this pic of a similar 'device' found at the prambanan temple. still not sure if there is any relationship at all. but maybe it will provide clue ...

Gavin Nugent · 29th June 2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by migueldiaz

about that rattan 'club'[?] above, i stumbled upon this pic of a similar 'device' found at the prambanan temple. still not sure if there is any relationship at all. but maybe it will provide clue ...

An uncanny similarity, great detective work!

3rd October 2010, 10:01 PM	#2
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Marc, muchas gracias! Gav, glad I can contribute to the body of knowledge. But the real thanks should go to the subject museums because they are very generous and helpful. Vandoo, thanks for those insights. Reichsritter, your expertise in Moro genealogies among others is surely well appreciated. Manuel, the pics below are from the Victor Balaguer museum. The weapons sit side by side with the cabinets containing Filipino weapons. Would they be Spanish? Thanks again to all. Attached Images

29th June 2011, 08:28 AM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	about that rattan 'club'[?] above, i stumbled upon this pic of a similar 'device' found at the prambanan temple. still not sure if there is any relationship at all. but maybe it will provide clue ... Attached Images

25th October 2010, 01:15 PM	#4
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	Well... Spanish, potentially Spanish or Spanish colonial, yes, I agree with Manuel. The axe is probably the most contentious one, and the dagger is a figurative 19th c. exemplar, generically "European". Can't blame the people at the museum for not being more specific, they are probably doing their best, and this is, after all, a specialized knowledge.