Philippine weapons in Spanish museums

[migueldiaz]

The last museum I saw is Museo de America, in Madrid.

Below are sample pics. Most of the items are inside a cabinet, which glass is textured(!) thus the poor pics.

All of the pics I took are here.

[Battara]

Once again some great pictures. Thank you for all your efforts and hard work. Love the Bagobo shield.

[VANDOO]

GREAT PICTURES WITH AN INTERESTING SELECTION OF WAR CLUBS. IT LOOKS TO BE 5 CLUBS FIJI/TONGAN, 2 SAMOA, 1 SOLOMON ISLANDS AND ONE SHORT CLUB FROM SOUTH AMERICA.
ITS NEAT TO SEE THE PHILIPPINE MORO KRISES WITH THE DAYAK DESIGNS ON THEM. THE THIRD PICTURE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LAST GROUP IS OF A KRIS WITH A FIGURAL HANDLE. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON IT IN THE BOOK? I HAVE A KRIS WITH A SIMULAR FIGURAL HANDLE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PIN DOWN AS TO WHERE IT ORIGINATED.

[migueldiaz]

Battara, thanks.

Vandoo, when I was looking at those clubs in the various museums I visited, I actually thought of you, that those clubs are your cup of tea On whether there's info on their books, unfortunately there's none.

[celtan]

Hola L.,

Did you happen to take pictures of the Spanish weapons in these museums, specially swords and daggers?

Saludos

Manuel

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by celtan

Did you happen to take pictures of the Spanish weapons in these museums, specially swords and daggers?

Hola, Manuel! Not much, as I there were a lot of items, and I focused on Phil. weapons.

Below are pics of some of those few ones I was able to take. Regards.

[Marc]

These are from the Museo Naval, if I'm not mistaken. Spanish regulation (or at least Navy-used) Navy weapons.
There's a catalogue of the bladed weapons of the Museo Naval, but it excludes all the ethnographic section. It's in Spanish, also.

[celtan]

Pretties!

All from the mid-late 19th C. Own several of these.

Thanks L !

: )

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Hola, Manuel! Not much, as I there were a lot of items, and I focused on Phil. weapons.

Below are pics of some of those few ones I was able to take. Regards.

[laEspadaAncha]

Lorenz,

I have greatly enjoyed pouring over these photos - Thank you for taking the time to document your visits and to post all the photos you have...

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Lorenz,

I have greatly enjoyed pouring over these photos - Thank you for taking the time to document your visits and to post all the photos you have...

Thanks too. I enjoyed compiling the pics as well

Incidentally for everybody's info, here's a list of Filipino items I saw on display at Museo del Ejercito (the army museum), in Toledo:

A. ETHNOGRAPHIC SECTION

1. ME(CE) 43366: kampilan, Phil., Jolo archip., donated by Lt. Col. Fernando Molina in 1895

2. 43399: ligua [i.e., head axe], Phil., island of Luzon 1840; steel and wood, shaped & carved; donated by Lt. Gen. Narciso Claveria in 1850

3. 43020: cris, donated by Datto Dacula, ruler of Mindanao and Jolo, Phil., islands of Jolo and Mindanao, 1835; steel, wood, and vegetable fiber, shaped and carved and embossed; donated by Capt. Fernando Halcon in 1839

4. 120072; 120088; 120093; 120096; etc. - pics of Moros and other Filipinos

B. ESTADO LIBERAL SECTION

1. 43108: armadura [Moro armor]; armadura del Sultan Datto de Iligan

2. 43108.01: campilan; with disc and hair decoration at hilt

3. 43012.01[?]: campilan

4. 43219 - escudo [Kalinga-Igorot shield]

5. 43402 - ligua o hacha [head axe]

C. THE REFORMATION OF THE MONARCHY SECTION

1. 43075: machetes Filipinos [i.e., one left- and one right-handed chisel edged tenegres, with silver cladding on the 'monster' pommels] de Valeriano Weyner [a top general in the Phils. then];

2. 43397: machete golok; 1890-1895 [this is a typical Luzon tabak with a D-guard]

3. 43235: standard for the katipunan oath [green and red thick textile, with "KKK" and sun symbol, and with tassels on all edges]

4. 43393: mandil de Katipunan [with an image of a Spaniard's decapitated head being held by a hand, and an image of a dagger on the other hand]

D. [SECTION??]

1. 42280: campilan

2. 43219: escudo [Mindanao; this is the typical hour-glass shaped shield with sun symbol at the middle]

3. 43166: machete talibong [this is the typical Cebu variety]

4. 43266: machete barong

5. 43015: cris

6. 43292: machete panabas

E. ROMEO ORTIZ SECTION

1. 43461.01: armadura [Moro armor]

2. 43461.03: armadura, kurab-a-kulang

[Navigator]

What a wonderful thread!
Thanks for all your effort.

Are there any good collections in Manila that can be viewed by the public?

When I lived there I was privileged to visit the home of Ramon Tapales in White Plains. He had an outstanding collection.

But, at that time (1975-81), the museums in Manila and Baguio were a great disappointment.
All the good pieces were in private collections.

[migueldiaz]

Thanks for the comment. I'd say that even up to now, many excellent pieces continue to be in private collections.

I'm not familiar with Ramon Tapales. But I'll find out if he still keeps them. Thanks for the info.

[Robert]

All that I can add is that I hope that your travels were as exciting and informative as you hoped they would be and to thank you for all the effort that you have put into sharing all of these wonderful photos with us here at the forum.

Robert

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

All that I can add is that I hope that your travels were as exciting and informative as you hoped they would be and to thank you for all the effort that you have put into sharing all of these wonderful photos with us here at the forum.

hi robert. it was a very successful trip. i got more than what i bargained for and the staff from the spanish museums were all super helpful. thanks too for the note. regards.