Philippine weapons in Spanish museums

Sajen · 20th September 2010, 05:59 PM

Thank you for sharing the pictures and informations!

kai · 21st September 2010, 01:18 AM

Lorenz, thanks so much for all your efforts! Hope you'll make it to central and northern Europe sometime soon...

Those are gorgeous pieces and your pics are a great resource!

I do wonder whether these are mainly battle pick-ups - blades from the Visayas and northern PI seem to be quite underrepresented except for those few axes and shields; also not that many Lumad pieces.

A few more of the single-edged Sulu kris are shown in this thread:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6140

Regards,
Kai

CharlesS · 21st September 2010, 06:13 PM

WOW!

Mouth watering!

Thanks for the pics!

carlos · 22nd September 2010, 08:24 AM

Great pictures!! I´m very happy to see you are in the best museums in Spain!!

I must return someday to the Naval Museum In Madrid, maybe this winter...
best regards
carlos

migueldiaz · 22nd September 2010, 08:38 PM

Charles and Sajen, thanks too.

Kai, yes the displays are always skewed in favor of Moro pieces (and it's well deserved, of course).

Carlos, thanks too. And your countrymen are most helpful, wherever we go

Was at Museo del Ejercito [army museum] yesterday, in Toledo. Unfortunately, the museum does not allow picture taking anymore. Just the same, the museum staff was quite helpful. Also, instead of displaying as many artifacts as possible, the new philosophy is to display just a sampling of each type.

The museum staff also told us that some Philippine pieces can also be found in the following Spanish museums: (a) Museo Cerralbo, Madrid - but I think the museum is now being refurbished; (b) museum of the America, Madrid; (c) Cuatro Vientos museum, which I think is the air force's museum; and (d) some items in various provincial museums like in Avila, San Sebastian, etc.

The rest of the day in Toledo was spent in checking out the paellas, mazapans, and various souvenir shops. More pics of those shops are here

Hope you guys in Spain will have the chance to visit those other museums!

migueldiaz · 22nd September 2010, 09:04 PM

Moving now to Museo Nacional de Antropologia, below are sample pics. There's not much weaponry in this museum. But ethnography-wise, the museum probably has the best sampling of items pertaining to Philippines of old.

migueldiaz · 22nd September 2010, 09:08 PM

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22nd September 2010, 08:38 PM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Charles and Sajen, thanks too. Kai, yes the displays are always skewed in favor of Moro pieces (and it's well deserved, of course). Carlos, thanks too. And your countrymen are most helpful, wherever we go Was at Museo del Ejercito [army museum] yesterday, in Toledo. Unfortunately, the museum does not allow picture taking anymore. Just the same, the museum staff was quite helpful. Also, instead of displaying as many artifacts as possible, the new philosophy is to display just a sampling of each type. The museum staff also told us that some Philippine pieces can also be found in the following Spanish museums: (a) Museo Cerralbo, Madrid - but I think the museum is now being refurbished; (b) museum of the America, Madrid; (c) Cuatro Vientos museum, which I think is the air force's museum; and (d) some items in various provincial museums like in Avila, San Sebastian, etc. The rest of the day in Toledo was spent in checking out the paellas, mazapans, and various souvenir shops. More pics of those shops are here Hope you guys in Spain will have the chance to visit those other museums! Attached Images Last edited by migueldiaz; 22nd September 2010 at 08:56 PM.

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migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Moving now to Museo Nacional de Antropologia, below are sample pics. There's not much weaponry in this museum. But ethnography-wise, the museum probably has the best sampling of items pertaining to Philippines of old. Attached Images

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	Thank you for sharing the pictures and informations!

21st September 2010, 01:18 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Lorenz, thanks so much for all your efforts! Hope you'll make it to central and northern Europe sometime soon... Those are gorgeous pieces and your pics are a great resource! I do wonder whether these are mainly battle pick-ups - blades from the Visayas and northern PI seem to be quite underrepresented except for those few axes and shields; also not that many Lumad pieces. A few more of the single-edged Sulu kris are shown in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6140 Regards, Kai

21st September 2010, 06:13 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	WOW! Mouth watering! Thanks for the pics!

22nd September 2010, 08:24 AM	#4
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	Great pictures!! I´m very happy to see you are in the best museums in Spain!! I must return someday to the Naval Museum In Madrid, maybe this winter... best regards carlos