Help with Identification please

A. G. Maisey · 28th August 2010, 04:20 AM

It came up OK didn't it Rick?

A. G. Maisey · 28th August 2010, 06:10 AM

This is a pic of a Bali blade that has been in pineapple juice for about a week. It has been taken out most days and scrubbed with an old toothbrush, the hard bits of rust have been picked off with an old file ground to a point, it has been scrubbed with sink cleaner, steel wool, and a scotchbrite pad.

The pic was taken today after it had been removed from the pineapple juice and just rinsed off with water.

As you can see, the pamor has started to come up, and for some people this would be an adequate finish. I will give it a couple more days of soaking, then I'll hit with lime juice and arsenic, and the end result will be that the ferric material will be a lot darker, however, if you don't like handling arsenic, or cannot obtain it, this finish would be a whole lot better than the red-rust all-over finish it had before I started.

Ignore the blade shape, its distorted because I took it at an angle so the pamor could be seen.

Rick · 28th August 2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

It came up OK didn't it Rick?

Hi Alan,
There wasn't much contrast to begin with; but yes, it did come up a bit .

imas560 · 30th August 2010, 01:14 AM

Out shopping today and found the following on special.

Rick · 30th August 2010, 01:35 AM

Looks good .
Got something the right size to soak the blade in ?

imas560 · 30th August 2010, 02:28 AM

A suspension immersion tube has been playing on my mind.
Was thinking of cutting the top straight off one of the packs and suspending the keris (with the handle wrapped in cling wrap/gladwrap, I've been poring over posts) but that might be a waste of pineapple juice. Am going to hunt around for a couple of clear plastic drink bottles that'll just take the blade. Maybe cut the bottom off one and the top off the other, sleeve them together, couple of clear plastic bags (one in the other), fill with juice and see what happens. Oh and sellotape coz it's always useful.
The handle is on very tight so am not wanting to separate at the moment.

Rick · 30th August 2010, 03:27 AM

I don't know where you live; but if you have a discount store that sells cheap art glass like our TJ Maxx, or Marshall's you can sometimes find inexpensive glass vases with a deep V shape that can be got cheaply .

There is also PVC pipe with a cap glued on one end .

A. G. Maisey · 30th August 2010, 10:34 AM

Yeah, that Golden Circle is what I use. For many years it was not possible to buy it without added sugar, and that's what I used for a very long time. Works just as well, but in hot weather the mold forms up on the surface quicker.

If you can find one, a wall paper trough is the best soak utensil I know of.

Rick's suggestion of pvc pipe with caps glued on works well too--- but once you glue the caps on you cut it in half lengthwise.4"X2" square section pipe is the best.

If all else fails all you need do is make a long narrow box out of corrugated cardboard and line it with plactic. That black garden plastic is good, but a couple plastic garbage bags will work OK too.

28th August 2010, 06:10 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	This is a pic of a Bali blade that has been in pineapple juice for about a week. It has been taken out most days and scrubbed with an old toothbrush, the hard bits of rust have been picked off with an old file ground to a point, it has been scrubbed with sink cleaner, steel wool, and a scotchbrite pad. The pic was taken today after it had been removed from the pineapple juice and just rinsed off with water. As you can see, the pamor has started to come up, and for some people this would be an adequate finish. I will give it a couple more days of soaking, then I'll hit with lime juice and arsenic, and the end result will be that the ferric material will be a lot darker, however, if you don't like handling arsenic, or cannot obtain it, this finish would be a whole lot better than the red-rust all-over finish it had before I started. Ignore the blade shape, its distorted because I took it at an angle so the pamor could be seen. Attached Images

28th August 2010, 04:20 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	It came up OK didn't it Rick?

30th August 2010, 01:14 AM	#4
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Out shopping today and found the following on special.

30th August 2010, 01:35 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Looks good . Got something the right size to soak the blade in ?

30th August 2010, 02:28 AM	#6
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	A suspension immersion tube has been playing on my mind. Was thinking of cutting the top straight off one of the packs and suspending the keris (with the handle wrapped in cling wrap/gladwrap, I've been poring over posts) but that might be a waste of pineapple juice. Am going to hunt around for a couple of clear plastic drink bottles that'll just take the blade. Maybe cut the bottom off one and the top off the other, sleeve them together, couple of clear plastic bags (one in the other), fill with juice and see what happens. Oh and sellotape coz it's always useful. The handle is on very tight so am not wanting to separate at the moment.

30th August 2010, 03:27 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	I don't know where you live; but if you have a discount store that sells cheap art glass like our TJ Maxx, or Marshall's you can sometimes find inexpensive glass vases with a deep V shape that can be got cheaply . There is also PVC pipe with a cap glued on one end .

30th August 2010, 10:34 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	Yeah, that Golden Circle is what I use. For many years it was not possible to buy it without added sugar, and that's what I used for a very long time. Works just as well, but in hot weather the mold forms up on the surface quicker. If you can find one, a wall paper trough is the best soak utensil I know of. Rick's suggestion of pvc pipe with caps glued on works well too--- but once you glue the caps on you cut it in half lengthwise.4"X2" square section pipe is the best. If all else fails all you need do is make a long narrow box out of corrugated cardboard and line it with plactic. That black garden plastic is good, but a couple plastic garbage bags will work OK too.