Kampilan dimension help please

Gavin Nugent · 24th August 2010, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Mabuhay!

Well, I agree with Rick - the measurements and weights vary. I would give you mine, but it belonged to a sultan and will be a little heavier due to the ivory.

I would say the same as the example I have here far exceeds the size that Kampilan normally found in both blade length and hilt size.

Gavin

Rick · 24th August 2010, 01:28 AM

I reiterate; IMO distal taper is the key to a fast Kamp blade .

My blades, at their widest point are also at their thinnest, say a fat 1/16" thick ?

Dimasalang · 24th August 2010, 03:59 AM

May I ask what type of FMA you are taking? Just curious to know.

Rick · 24th August 2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

I would say the same as the example I have here far exceeds the size that Kampilan normally found in both blade length and hilt size.

Gavin

Fancy, is it ?

A Datu's Bearing Kampilan perhaps ?

Or a larger Man's sword ?

imas560 · 24th August 2010, 04:52 AM

Thanks for the quick replies.
Am getting an approximate point of balance as my trainer is too front heavy (but not as top heavy as a axe). Especially interested in kampilans that may have been made for use.
Am training in Bahad Zu'bu with GM 'Yuli' Romo. He and his group have a couple of clips with staff and kampilan. From memory there is a clip of a kampilan demo that GM Yuli did in a public setting in P.I.
Also have seen a clip with Master Ricketts weilding a staff.
Hope I'm not straying too much into a FMA diversion on my first thread. Apologies if I have.
Also if my posts seem disjointed I have a 2 year old boy who requires "re-direction" every now and then.
Anyways were was I, yes kampilan trainer, am looking at altering the point of balance by drilling holes along the front top edge of the blade. The handle seems too short but am not going to change it as kampilan at 2kg is heavy, but it does mean I have to execute moves slowly and correctly.
Many thanks again for quick replies.

Gavin Nugent · 24th August 2010, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Fancy, is it ?

A Datu's Bearing Kampilan perhaps ?

Or a larger Man's sword ?

Sorry Rick, I thought you had seen it. Both I would think.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan

Gav

Rick · 24th August 2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

Sorry Rick, I thought you had seen it. Both I would think.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan

Gav

Now I remember !

imas, I believe the two Kamps I posted were made as combat pieces .

Rick

imas560 · 24th August 2010, 09:27 PM

I found the photo of your two kampilans thanks Rick. Very nice.

Maurice · 24th August 2010, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Now I remember !

How is it possible to forget that one????

Battara · 25th August 2010, 03:44 AM

Oh yeah, Freebooter, that type is on my want list (the bells....the bells..... ).....

imas560 · 5th September 2010, 03:55 AM

Well I found a post that migueldiaz contributed a collection of kampilan tips to.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan
I had identified on my kampilan trainer a new point of balance that I would like (pink paper).

I set up to drill a series of 3.5mm holes at the front end of my trainer.

But I had made no difference to the point of balance

I didn't want to go past the sundi(?) so I enlarged the drill holes to 5mm which unfortunately when looked at in close up are too big

But when viewed as a whole they are not too overbearing

The change to the point of balance is also negligible

To make a significant change to point of balance I will have to go the distal taper route as suggested by Rick. I won't make a change to my trainer but the blank I have ready for my live version will undergo a fair bit of shaping and grinding. I'll most probably shape like a elongated diamond cross section starting from in front of the crossguard as my grinding skills aren't that hot.

24th August 2010, 04:52 AM	#5
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Thanks Thanks for the quick replies. Am getting an approximate point of balance as my trainer is too front heavy (but not as top heavy as a axe). Especially interested in kampilans that may have been made for use. Am training in Bahad Zu'bu with GM 'Yuli' Romo. He and his group have a couple of clips with staff and kampilan. From memory there is a clip of a kampilan demo that GM Yuli did in a public setting in P.I. Also have seen a clip with Master Ricketts weilding a staff. Hope I'm not straying too much into a FMA diversion on my first thread. Apologies if I have. Also if my posts seem disjointed I have a 2 year old boy who requires "re-direction" every now and then. Anyways were was I, yes kampilan trainer, am looking at altering the point of balance by drilling holes along the front top edge of the blade. The handle seems too short but am not going to change it as kampilan at 2kg is heavy, but it does mean I have to execute moves slowly and correctly. Many thanks again for quick replies.

5th September 2010, 03:55 AM	#11
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Fail Well I found a post that migueldiaz contributed a collection of kampilan tips to. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan I had identified on my kampilan trainer a new point of balance that I would like (pink paper). I set up to drill a series of 3.5mm holes at the front end of my trainer. But I had made no difference to the point of balance I didn't want to go past the sundi(?) so I enlarged the drill holes to 5mm which unfortunately when looked at in close up are too big But when viewed as a whole they are not too overbearing The change to the point of balance is also negligible To make a significant change to point of balance I will have to go the distal taper route as suggested by Rick. I won't make a change to my trainer but the blank I have ready for my live version will undergo a fair bit of shaping and grinding. I'll most probably shape like a elongated diamond cross section starting from in front of the crossguard as my grinding skills aren't that hot.

24th August 2010, 01:28 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	I reiterate; IMO distal taper is the key to a fast Kamp blade . My blades, at their widest point are also at their thinnest, say a fat 1/16" thick ?

24th August 2010, 03:59 AM	#3
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	May I ask what type of FMA you are taking? Just curious to know.

24th August 2010, 09:27 PM	#8
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	I found the photo of your two kampilans thanks Rick. Very nice.

25th August 2010, 03:44 AM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	Oh yeah, Freebooter, that type is on my want list (the bells....the bells..... ).....