Warangan

Jean · 16th July 2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Okay !
I'm going to rat you out David .

One done for me; smooth surface .

Haha, my turn to be critical! Good work but I notice some residual red rust under the stain one third up the blade? Or is it poor maintenance from Rick?
Best regards
Jean

asomotif · 16th July 2010, 12:15 PM

I noticed that too, but assumed it is reflection of something at the background. or maybe flash ?

Rick, can you enlighten us ?

Best regards,
Willem

Jean · 16th July 2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

I noticed that too, but assumed it is reflection of something at the background. or maybe flash ?

Rick, can you enlighten us ?

Best regards,
Willem

Yes, it could be, I was just teasing David!

By the way is this an original ganja iras blade or not? (the pejetan seems to extend down to the bottom of the blade). How would you classify the nice pamor?
Best regards
Jean

David · 16th July 2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Haha, my turn to be critical! Good work but I notice some residual red rust under the stain one third up the blade? Or is it poor maintenance from Rick?

Well Jean, as i stated further back in this thread "Frankly this looks much like the kind of results i get when i stain and i don't consider my skills at this work to be particular laudable." I know that i would never refer to my own warangan work as impressive.

However, i can assure you that there is no residual rust here. There is an bit of unevenness in the way the stain took in that area of the blade. I actually did Rick's blade twice and when the same thing happened in that area the second time i let it be with my apologies to him.

I guess since he wasn't paying for the job he was happy with.

And yes, the blade is gonjo iras IMO. Nice blade, i almost didn't send it back to him.

Rick · 16th July 2010, 02:42 PM

Yes, David is correct .

This color change is located about where a sepuhan line would appear .

Def. not rust .
Pamor ?
Something kind of like uler lulut; but what's in a name ?

I have seen FECL also do the same browning thing to certain ferrous metals .

Before .....

Jean · 16th July 2010, 03:08 PM

Thank you David and Rick.

Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color.
By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin.
Best regards
Jean

Rick · 16th July 2010, 03:25 PM

Correct Jean .
Ferric Chloride .
I never did well in Chemistry .

Bill M · 12th August 2010, 05:29 AM

How about HiOAg?

That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

How about HiOAg?
That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

lol old chemistry joke...

Se compounds could do the job...But i stil dont have figured out witch one wil do best. There are several Oxide compounds that contain Se...Help aspriciated!!

regards

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Thank you David and Rick.

Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color.
By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin.
Best regards
Jean

hmm orange..

Fecl3 thought it was bit grey/pinkisch and with O2 contact becomes brownisch/black...... And FeSO4 is green isnt it???

P.S. the orange/redisch one is K3[Fe(CN)6]Potassium ferricyanide

EDIT>>> FeCl3 Hexa Hydrate is orange coloured.....I missed that one.. my appolegies

Other FeCl3 salts are grey to black

Bill M · 12th August 2010, 01:35 PM

Have a friend in Germany who is involved in cancer research. I think that he uses arsenic trioxide. If you know someone in that field, locally, they might have some ideas about where and how to obtain it.

I once contacted a chemical supply house that offered to mail some to me, but they had to deliver to a commercial location.

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 10:49 PM

Hi Bill,

I stil have enough here, and am able to get more when i need. So i dont have to worrie for the next couple of years.

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Yes, David is correct . This color change is located about where a sepuhan line would appear . Def. not rust . Pamor ? Something kind of like uler lulut; but what's in a name ? I have seen FECL also do the same browning thing to certain ferrous metals . Before ..... Attached Images

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asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	I noticed that too, but assumed it is reflection of something at the background. or maybe flash ? Rick, can you enlighten us ? Best regards, Willem

16th July 2010, 03:08 PM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you David and Rick. Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color. By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin. Best regards Jean

16th July 2010, 03:25 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Correct Jean . Ferric Chloride . I never did well in Chemistry .

12th August 2010, 05:29 AM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	How about HiOAg? That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

12th August 2010, 01:35 PM	#11
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Have a friend in Germany who is involved in cancer research. I think that he uses arsenic trioxide. If you know someone in that field, locally, they might have some ideas about where and how to obtain it. I once contacted a chemical supply house that offered to mail some to me, but they had to deliver to a commercial location.

12th August 2010, 10:49 PM	#12
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Hi Bill, I stil have enough here, and am able to get more when i need. So i dont have to worrie for the next couple of years.