Sword for ID on SFI

Tim Simmons · 8th June 2005, 05:56 PM

It seems clear that the blade has come from some other weapon.I am still going with poor nomad people from around the NW frontier, like Rick said with similar carpet motifs,people like the Balouch among others.Tim

Andy Davis · 8th June 2005, 06:31 PM

Here a few more photos including the blade, which doesnt seem to have any damascus qualities.

Andy Davis · 8th June 2005, 06:36 PM

Sorry forgot the blade one and here the back of the grip. Did anyone notice that both peacock designs have 4 legs!
Cheers
Andy

fearn · 8th June 2005, 06:45 PM

Hi Andy,

Thanks for those extra pics. I'm not sure that those peacocks have four legs. Collectively, those "four legs" have the right number of toes for a normal peacock, so I think it was just the artist's attempt to show legs with width. Crude, but there you have it. I also think that there might be a head-on view of an elephant on the curve of the pommel (forehead and trunk).

Fearn

Tim Simmons · 8th June 2005, 07:03 PM

That does look like an elephant head which could indicate a more easterly origin in India or Nepal.It might be a form of Ram Dao if thats the right name.I know the knife Rsword is talking about, but this does not look as heavy as one of those, they have a knuckle duster as a knuckle bow.Tim

Andy Davis · 8th June 2005, 07:33 PM

Taken a good look at it and while there is little detail e.g no eyes and mainly outline, it deffinately has a trunk, so a Elephant it is.

Rick · 8th June 2005, 08:58 PM

So do we suppose there were once jewels in those two bezel mounts(?) on either side of the hilt ? Also note the possibly symbolic three dots in the pommel plate ; some of the floriform decoration on the handle looks almost Tibetan .
Fascinating sword !

Andy , I made a large close up from your picture of the 'elephant' ; okay to post it ?

8th June 2005, 06:31 PM	#2
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	More photos Here a few more photos including the blade, which doesnt seem to have any damascus qualities. Attached Images

8th June 2005, 06:36 PM	#3
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Missed two Sorry forgot the blade one and here the back of the grip. Did anyone notice that both peacock designs have 4 legs! Cheers Andy Attached Images

8th June 2005, 07:03 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,897	That does look like an elephant head which could indicate a more easterly origin in India or Nepal.It might be a form of Ram Dao if thats the right name.I know the knife Rsword is talking about, but this does not look as heavy as one of those, they have a knuckle duster as a knuckle bow.Tim Last edited by Tim Simmons; 8th June 2005 at 07:43 PM.

8th June 2005, 07:33 PM	#6
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Elephant it is Taken a good look at it and while there is little detail e.g no eyes and mainly outline, it deffinately has a trunk, so a Elephant it is.

8th June 2005, 05:56 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,897	It seems clear that the blade has come from some other weapon.I am still going with poor nomad people from around the NW frontier, like Rick said with similar carpet motifs,people like the Balouch among others.Tim

8th June 2005, 06:45 PM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Andy, Thanks for those extra pics. I'm not sure that those peacocks have four legs. Collectively, those "four legs" have the right number of toes for a normal peacock, so I think it was just the artist's attempt to show legs with width. Crude, but there you have it. I also think that there might be a head-on view of an elephant on the curve of the pommel (forehead and trunk). Fearn

8th June 2005, 08:58 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	So do we suppose there were once jewels in those two bezel mounts(?) on either side of the hilt ? Also note the possibly symbolic three dots in the pommel plate ; some of the floriform decoration on the handle looks almost Tibetan . Fascinating sword ! Andy , I made a large close up from your picture of the 'elephant' ; okay to post it ?