Wootz Marsh Arab dagger translation help?

[Dom]

Originally Posted by spiral

All thoughts opinions & of course translations welcome.

Hi spiral

no more comments than already done, because ALEX said everything
I may just add the translation

MOHAMED AMAL either; DONE BY MOHAMED
GAWAD either; GAWAD (it's an arabic name)

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Dom

[spiral]

Thank you Dom, your help is excelent!

So a past muslim owner just put his own name on it perhaps?

I think its quite a long time since it had a muslim owner.

Spiral

[Dom]

Originally Posted by spiral

So a past muslim owner just put his own name on it perhaps?

Hi Spiral
not owner ... "amal" means; the one who has done

- the scabbard ?? might be
- the blade ?? I doubt, the blacksmith sign on the blade
- the complete dagger ?? a possibility
BUT
I am sharing Alex analyse when he mention ;
writing it is much later, very crudely done and not matching the rest of scabbard..

for general information; owner in Arabic, is "sahreb" and we don't have that word

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Dom

[spiral]

Thank you Dom, in that case I have to concur with both you & Alex., as the inscription is much cruder than the floral work & in different method.

Your help is of great value.

Thanks again to all.

Spiral

[ashoka]

Just to play devils advocate I would suggest that the inscription was made before the wirework decoration was applied... ? The solder used to fix the wirework runs over/into the inscription in places, ie the tip of the lions tail... something not possible if the inscription was done after the wirework decoration...

[spiral]

Thank you for your thoughts Stefan, there interesting, I certanly hadnt noticed that possibility, but indeed hope your correct.
Ill have a closer look tommorow with a good lens & see how it appears that way.

spiral