Montmorency blade in late 18th c. British military swords

midelburgo · 18th February 2026, 11:30 AM

I reference to the previous "NO ME ENFADES" blade now I know of another two similar ones, also dated 1700 and 1702, with Spanish texts.

So, these seem to have been used by Spanish Dragons before an Ordenanza in 1704 ordered straight blades.

The 18833 is obviously a Weyersberg inpersonation of Toledo, just as nowadays Chinese fakers make spelling mistakes.

Hotspur · 18th February 2026, 02:56 PM

In my opinion, the fullers at the spine are to add stiffness, even though the Bancal was known to fold.

Not limited to sabres, here is a German backsword blades about 1800 and a 1750ish Germanic hussar hiltsabre with a wider spine fuller, as we see on British stuff after 1780.

Cheers
GC

Hotspur · 18th February 2026, 03:20 PM

An earlier backsword blade.

18th February 2026, 02:56 PM	#2
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 547	In my opinion, the fullers at the spine are to add stiffness, even though the Bancal was known to fold. Not limited to sabres, here is a German backsword blades about 1800 and a 1750ish Germanic hussar hiltsabre with a wider spine fuller, as we see on British stuff after 1780. Cheers GC Attached Images

18th February 2026, 03:20 PM	#3
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 547	An earlier backsword blade. Attached Images

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18th February 2026, 11:30 AM	#1
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 294	I reference to the previous "NO ME ENFADES" blade now I know of another two similar ones, also dated 1700 and 1702, with Spanish texts. So, these seem to have been used by Spanish Dragons before an Ordenanza in 1704 ordered straight blades. The 18833 is obviously a Weyersberg inpersonation of Toledo, just as nowadays Chinese fakers make spelling mistakes.