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			Alan of course, certainly a Javanese paradigm! .. A paradigm from which I am far from and aware of it.... and I love listening to the Javanese when they teach me somethings about keris
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			So it seems we are in agreement Marco, however, it is wise to be rather careful when selecting a teacher. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			This applies to all disciplines, not only the matter of keris. Edit "discipline" in the sense of a branch of knowledge Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 30th March 2023 at 12:30 AM. Reason: clarification  | 
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			Yes, i agree with you Alan about disciplines and wise
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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