DOEHOENG KASOENDAN (A Soenda Perspective)

David · 20th December 2021, 08:16 PM

Thanks Jean.
In order to take my "next" trip to Vienna i would have to have already taken my FIRST trip to Vienna. LOL!

Jean · 21st December 2021, 10:10 AM

And this is my own kris, the antique blade was unfortunately broken and shortened while piercing the body of an enemy

It was repaired & treated in Solo, and the scabbard was recently made by copying an old model.
Regards

Jean · 21st December 2021, 10:14 AM

The blade in its original condition.

Amuk Murugul · 24th December 2021, 09:25 PM

Hullo everybody!

Update for 1st picture of post #63 above.

Best,

Gustav · 24th December 2021, 10:00 PM

As the sheath is a perfect fit for the blade, we can consider it to have been made for the Keris and thus original.

Amuk Murugul · 24th December 2021, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

As the sheath is a perfect fit for the blade, we can consider it to have been made for the Keris and thus original.

Hullo Gustav,
As you well know, during the life of a blade, it may undergo various changes of dress. When undergone properly, of course they should always fit ‘perfectly’.
By 'original', I mean as at the time it left the ‘original owner’. So I guess what you’re saying is that THAT particular sheath came with the blade when handed over by the then owner, back in 1521.
Thank you for your input.

Best,

Gustav · 25th December 2021, 11:42 AM

Hello Amuk Murugul,

of course this Keris did have at least one stopover in workshops run by portuguese in ther trading facilities or colonies, where the stones in the hilt were in set in a Ceilonese fashion, and possibly the Mendak was made. The style of overpainting of the sheath is associated with a Cochin workshop.

You surely were aware of this thread with more details on this:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...chordens+keris

But yes, I think the possibility this Keris originally came out of Java with this sheath is very high.

21st December 2021, 10:10 AM	#2
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	And this is my own kris, the antique blade was unfortunately broken and shortened while piercing the body of an enemy It was repaired & treated in Solo, and the scabbard was recently made by copying an old model. Regards Attached Images

21st December 2021, 10:14 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	The blade in its original condition. Attached Images

24th December 2021, 09:25 PM	#4
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 477	DOEHOENG SANG NALÉNDRAPOETRA PREMANA Hullo everybody! Update for 1st picture of post #63 above. Best, Attached Images

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20th December 2021, 08:16 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,263	Thanks Jean. In order to take my "next" trip to Vienna i would have to have already taken my FIRST trip to Vienna. LOL!

24th December 2021, 10:00 PM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,308	As the sheath is a perfect fit for the blade, we can consider it to have been made for the Keris and thus original.

25th December 2021, 11:42 AM	#7
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,308	Hello Amuk Murugul, of course this Keris did have at least one stopover in workshops run by portuguese in ther trading facilities or colonies, where the stones in the hilt were in set in a Ceilonese fashion, and possibly the Mendak was made. The style of overpainting of the sheath is associated with a Cochin workshop. You surely were aware of this thread with more details on this: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...chordens+keris But yes, I think the possibility this Keris originally came out of Java with this sheath is very high.