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4th August 2016, 08:10 PM
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Inherited Yatagan
Hi All,
I recently inherited this Yataghan and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help with identification, dating, inscription translation, etc... Thank you all in advance, Matt Last edited by Robert; 5th August 2016 at 01:19 AM. Reason: Asking for valuation on an item is against forum policy. |
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5th August 2016, 01:23 AM
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To me this looks like a Turkish proper 19th century piece. Date will be better confirmed once some translates the Turkish in Arabic script. I will say though that I believe the Ottomans changed to Western Romanized script after 1928 under Kamal Ataturk.
Last edited by Battara; 12th August 2016 at 01:43 AM. |
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11th August 2016, 07:57 PM
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Thanks Battara. Does anyone else have any further information? A translation of the script would be greatly appreciated!
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12th August 2016, 10:23 AM
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The date is 1788, end of 18th c.
You should post a better photo of the inscription. Anyway it's a nice yataghan but not a master piece. I like the walrus grips. |
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12th August 2016, 03:06 PM
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i twerked your images, got tired of craning my neck.
 interesting 'tree of life' scabbard under it does not look original  later replacement?
Last edited by kronckew; 12th August 2016 at 03:23 PM. |
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17th August 2016, 02:30 PM
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Thank you for the dating Kubur.
Yes kronckew, the scabbard is definitely not original. I appreciate the updated images. Any translations available out there? Thank you all for all the helpful information! |
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8th September 2016, 01:27 AM
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Any one have any more information?
Thank you all in advance. |
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30th September 2016, 03:20 PM
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Bump for a translation if it is out there.
Thank you |
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12th November 2016, 08:10 PM
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Last bump try.
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20th October 2019, 05:35 PM
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A Turkish couplet:
bu bıçağın zarbından cümle düşman tarumar her belayı def eder ol gani perverdigar All of the enemy are scattered at this knifes blow, That Self-Sufficient Sustainer (i.e. God) repels every catastrophe. |
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20th October 2019, 05:51 PM
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Sorry, I gave an incorrect reading, it should be:
A Turkish, couplet. For some reason the first words of each line are missing. [bu bıçağın] zarbından cümle düşman tar-ü mar [alır düşmandan] intikamını sanki misli zülfikar The entire enemy are scattered at [this knifes] blow, [It takes] its revenge on the enemy like Zülfikar. The makers mark reads Ahmed. Last edited by kwiatek; 20th October 2019 at 11:23 PM. |
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21st October 2019, 01:35 AM
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Finally we got a member who can read old Turkish!
Kwiatek, you are more than welcome here! Just do not leave this place because of too many requests to translate. |
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21st October 2019, 10:22 AM
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Yes, knowledge is better when passed on, the more it is spread, the better we all get.
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