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A. G. Maisey · 14th December 2024, 06:56 PM

David, I did notice one piece of ornamentation that I thought might be a fleur-de-lys, but I did not think about it. In the late colonial era in Jawa, & until the present day, European based motifs are common in Jawa ornamentation, two that readily come to mind are grapes (sekar anggur), roses (sekar mawar).

To the best of my knowledge, we do not find this sort of European influence in earlier eras.

Pakubuwana X was very much attracted to European art & designs, & I think that perhaps European influence might have weighed heavily on PB IX's decisions also.

We can sometimes use art motifs to help indicate probable time of production of an artefact.

14th December 2024, 06:56 PM	#12
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	David, I did notice one piece of ornamentation that I thought might be a fleur-de-lys, but I did not think about it. In the late colonial era in Jawa, & until the present day, European based motifs are common in Jawa ornamentation, two that readily come to mind are grapes (sekar anggur), roses (sekar mawar). To the best of my knowledge, we do not find this sort of European influence in earlier eras. Pakubuwana X was very much attracted to European art & designs, & I think that perhaps European influence might have weighed heavily on PB IX's decisions also. We can sometimes use art motifs to help indicate probable time of production of an artefact.