Moro kris HELP!

David · 27th December 2010, 01:31 AM

Well, i'm in a blizzard in NYC and happen into this antique store. Sorry that the pictures are awful. I'm using my wife's point & shoot in bad light. The color is all off.
What i am wondering is how old the furniture might be. The blade looks old and i can see lamination (not shown). The silver metal appears to be true silver in person and the "gold" looks to be at least gold plate if not suasa. The guy says the bit at the top piece is ivory, though it might well be bone. I didn't have time for a proper inspection or better pictures. But i feel like this hilt is a later addition to this ensemble. What do you guys think?

Rick · 27th December 2010, 02:06 AM

Well, you're going to buy it anyway; aren't you ?

Or is it over the Moon ?

The okir is not outstanding but adequate .
Pre WWII work ?

Wish you had shown the blade entire .

Sajen · 27th December 2010, 02:20 AM

Hello David,

like you know I am not an expert but what I can see by the pictures is that the motif at hilt, bone (look indeed like bone) pice and band at the scabbard is adequate, isn't it? And the silver band at the scabbard seems to have some age and my guess is that the fittings are not recent but I think later work as the blade. What I can see by the pictures it is a nice looking kris and to use the words from Rick, when the price isn't over the moon.....

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 27th December 2010, 02:25 AM

The hilt, baka-baka, and scabbard are all later work. Only the blade is old.

David · 27th December 2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

The hilt, baka-baka, and scabbard are all later work. Only the blade is old.

This is what i thought to José, but how old do you think the later work is. Pre- WWII or post?
I'm sorry i couldn't get better shots of the blade. I should have at least gotten a full length.

Amuk Murugul · 27th December 2010, 04:19 AM

Hullo David,

I've seen one very similar, half straight with 5 curves and a straight handle. The stirrup, ferrule and pommel were brass. The grip was wound with twine with a conical pommel.
My guess is that the fittings/scabbard on yours are post-WWII.

Best,

Battara · 27th December 2010, 01:33 PM

Sorry I wasn't clearer. Yes post WWII fittings.

27th December 2010, 01:31 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	Moro kris HELP! Well, i'm in a blizzard in NYC and happen into this antique store. Sorry that the pictures are awful. I'm using my wife's point & shoot in bad light. The color is all off. What i am wondering is how old the furniture might be. The blade looks old and i can see lamination (not shown). The silver metal appears to be true silver in person and the "gold" looks to be at least gold plate if not suasa. The guy says the bit at the top piece is ivory, though it might well be bone. I didn't have time for a proper inspection or better pictures. But i feel like this hilt is a later addition to this ensemble. What do you guys think? Attached Images Last edited by David; 27th December 2010 at 02:03 AM.

27th December 2010, 02:06 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Well, you're going to buy it anyway; aren't you ? Or is it over the Moon ? The okir is not outstanding but adequate . Pre WWII work ? Wish you had shown the blade entire .

27th December 2010, 02:20 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Hello David, like you know I am not an expert but what I can see by the pictures is that the motif at hilt, bone (look indeed like bone) pice and band at the scabbard is adequate, isn't it? And the silver band at the scabbard seems to have some age and my guess is that the fittings are not recent but I think later work as the blade. What I can see by the pictures it is a nice looking kris and to use the words from Rick, when the price isn't over the moon..... Regards, Detlef

27th December 2010, 02:25 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	The hilt, baka-baka, and scabbard are all later work. Only the blade is old.

27th December 2010, 04:19 AM	#6
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 460	Hullo David, I've seen one very similar, half straight with 5 curves and a straight handle. The stirrup, ferrule and pommel were brass. The grip was wound with twine with a conical pommel. My guess is that the fittings/scabbard on yours are post-WWII. Best,

27th December 2010, 01:33 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Sorry I wasn't clearer. Yes post WWII fittings.