help identifying this dagger

Montino Bourbon · 17th January 2005, 04:54 AM

Dear friends; I have had this dagger in my family for a long time; can anyone help me identify it, and give a possible provenance?
Thank you!

Federico · 17th January 2005, 06:38 AM

A very interesting dagger. Can you identify the handle material, horn, wood, etc...? Is the brass ferrule brazed (eg. can you see a seam), or is it one piece? Any more on its history in your family?

Montino Bourbon · 17th January 2005, 07:34 AM

The handle seems to be alternating rings of material; I don't know what it is, although tomorrow I will post a close-up of it. there are layers of different colors of material, with very thin metal between them, and the whole handle is fluted. I can't tell how the ferrule is attached. The dagger has been in my family since I was little, more than 60 years; it's possible that it has been in the family a long time. My family is a very old Italian family; on my father's side we trace our ancestry back to 907 C.E. for our present last name, (I have the family archives in my possession, but we are well known historically in Italy), farther if you go back to Roman times, and I have been told that we have Etruscan ancestry as well. It seems to be really nice steel, with an excellent armor-piercing point.

Montino Bourbon · 17th January 2005, 07:38 AM

I just examined the ferrule closely; it does not look like it has a seam. I'll post more pics tomorrow.

Rich · 17th January 2005, 10:18 AM

I think this is a style called a Mediterranian dagger.
Likely from southern Europe, French, Spain or Italy.
The style was around a long time, ca 1500 - 1900.
Hard to guess a date, but a nice looking piece.

Rich S

Yannis · 17th January 2005, 10:58 AM

It is mediteranian dagger. Italian, late 18th century, according to "Weapons" (The Diagram Group) encyclopedia, page 33.

17th January 2005, 04:54 AM	#1
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	help identifying this dagger Dear friends; I have had this dagger in my family for a long time; can anyone help me identify it, and give a possible provenance? Thank you! Attached Images

17th January 2005, 06:38 AM	#2
Federico Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA Posts: 312	A very interesting dagger. Can you identify the handle material, horn, wood, etc...? Is the brass ferrule brazed (eg. can you see a seam), or is it one piece? Any more on its history in your family?

17th January 2005, 07:34 AM	#3
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	The handle seems to be alternating rings of material; I don't know what it is, although tomorrow I will post a close-up of it. there are layers of different colors of material, with very thin metal between them, and the whole handle is fluted. I can't tell how the ferrule is attached. The dagger has been in my family since I was little, more than 60 years; it's possible that it has been in the family a long time. My family is a very old Italian family; on my father's side we trace our ancestry back to 907 C.E. for our present last name, (I have the family archives in my possession, but we are well known historically in Italy), farther if you go back to Roman times, and I have been told that we have Etruscan ancestry as well. It seems to be really nice steel, with an excellent armor-piercing point.

17th January 2005, 07:38 AM	#4
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	I just examined the ferrule closely; it does not look like it has a seam. I'll post more pics tomorrow.

17th January 2005, 10:18 AM	#5
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	I think this is a style called a Mediterranian dagger. Likely from southern Europe, French, Spain or Italy. The style was around a long time, ca 1500 - 1900. Hard to guess a date, but a nice looking piece. Rich S

17th January 2005, 10:58 AM	#6
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	It is mediteranian dagger. Italian, late 18th century, according to "Weapons" (The Diagram Group) encyclopedia, page 33.