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Old 16th November 2011, 02:49 AM   #1
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Talking Translation request - Ottoman knife (or Arabic?)

Hi everyone,
I am totally new here, I have read the FAQ and stickies, however please correct me if I mispost.
Amazing site by the way...
Anyhow, I was wondering if someone might be able to help with a translation on the blade of this knife. The handle makes me think it is Ottoman, but I am far from an expert on the matter, it may be Arabic. Particularily any help on the inscribed name and date would be most appriciated.
The 2 pictures of the entire blade were pieced together in an attempt to have the whole inscription legible and in one piece. I hope it worked alright, it looks piecemeal, but thats the limit of my photo-software knowledge and/or camera skills
I can try and take more pictures if necessary.

Thanks all!
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Old 16th November 2011, 01:44 PM   #2
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Hi everyone,
I am totally new here, I have read the FAQ and stickies, however please correct me if I mispost.
Amazing site by the way...
Anyhow, I was wondering if someone might be able to help with a translation on the blade of this knife. The handle makes me think it is Ottoman, but I am far from an expert on the matter, it may be Arabic. Particularily any help on the inscribed name and date would be most appriciated.
The 2 pictures of the entire blade were pieced together in an attempt to have the whole inscription legible and in one piece. I hope it worked alright, it looks piecemeal, but thats the limit of my photo-software knowledge and/or camera skills
I can try and take more pictures if necessary.

Thanks all!
back to reading posts!

-J
Salaams j118, Welcome to the Forum!!
I can only read bits of the script on your Yatagan and note it has a nice swirling Ottoman Tughrah inscribed. Im sure a translation will be forthcoming.
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Old 17th November 2011, 12:46 AM   #3
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Hi everyone,
I am totally new here, I have read the FAQ and stickies, however please correct me if I mispost.
Hi j118
you arrived at the right place, for the right purpose

your edged weapons is an yatagan Ottoman, with an handle "ears" or "butterfly"
the script, excepted if Quranic, should be in turkish, especially that there is a tughra
with the tughra, you might expect evaluated the age of your yatagan
http://www.tugra.org/en/tugralar.asp
tomorrow (p.m.), I shall see if is in Turkish, or in Arabic, and I will tell you

all the best

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Old 18th November 2011, 12:32 AM   #4
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tomorrow (p.m.), I shall see if is in Turkish, or in Arabic, and I will tell you
... here we are
my fears were justified ... all is written in turkish language (a priori)
just a few words emerged in Arabic, but very few
my translator does not know the Turkish, only Arabic language, sorry

AMAL ASME (?) either "MADE BY ASME" (? because it's an unknown surname for us, translation under reserve ... )

the "tughra":
in his center possible to read "MOHAMED"
but all curves making the "tughra" it's a complement part of the name ... but indecipherable

after the "tughra", we read
"IBN SALT" either "SON OF SALT" (again a surname unknown for us)
then the rest of the sentence, it's not written in arabic

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Old 18th November 2011, 01:50 AM   #5
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but all curves making the "tughra" it's a complement part of the name ... but indecipherable
I can post a close up of the Tugrah if it is any help.

Thanks! So far that is far more than I knew before.
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Old 19th November 2011, 07:19 PM   #6
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Hi,
the reading of the tuğra is as follows:
Amel-i Muharrem, sahib Molla Muhammed
work of Muharrem, owner Molla Muhammed

The language of the inscription is Turkish, if you can provide partial pictures like the one of tuğra, it will make it much easier for me to read it.

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Old 20th November 2011, 11:18 PM   #7
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if you can provide partial pictures like the one of tuğra, it will make it much easier for me to read it.
Sure, hope these help!
I little our of order, I think it made the last piece first, but the others should be in order down the blade.

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Old 20th November 2011, 11:20 PM   #8
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and side 2, same as above...
again, cant seem to get the editor to take them in order, sorry about that.
this one is in the order 6,5,4,3,2,7,1
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