ARABIC TRANSLATION AGAIN PLEASE

kahnjar1 · 20th June 2009, 03:03 AM

I have had this Meccan Jambiya in my collection for several years and have just noticed this script on the blade. Not sure if it is the right way up but could someone please let me know what it says.
Thanks
Stuart

Atlantia · 22nd June 2009, 09:46 PM

Hi Stuart,
Can I ask a total newbie question?
Your Dagger looks to me very 'classic' and rather fine. I have been thinking about the bulbous ends to the scabbards on these and I'm wondering what the 'classic' shape represents?
Although superficially similar to mine, yours is totally different to the foliate 'pineapple' shape and cut of mine?
Are their rules to what these represent even though the general bulbous shape is the same?
Could you show a closer view of the end of yours please?
Sorry, I know thats rather a lot of questions! lol

Regards
Gene

kahnjar1 · 23rd June 2009, 04:30 AM

The "bulb" is called a THUM and literally translates as a Garlic or Onion. Found mostly on Western Arabian knives from Asir /Meccan region, though it is also found on some Southern Arabian pieces, notibly the Hadramauti GUSBI. I guess the shape can be anything the maker dreams up as some are only very small while others are quite big.
Regards Stuart

Atlantia · 23rd June 2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

The "bulb" is called a THUM and literally translates as a Garlic or Onion. Found mostly on Western Arabian knives from Asir /Meccan region, though it is also found on some Southern Arabian pieces, notibly the Hadramauti GUSBI. I guess the shape can be anything the maker dreams up as some are only very small while others are quite big.
Regards Stuart

Thanks Stuart, sorry didn't mean to pull your thread off topic. Really nice dagger mate! Hopefully someone will help with the translation?

Dom · 24th June 2009, 05:05 AM

translation; could be
bawine ...
but what that means

by the way

- onion in arabic is ; "bazal"
- garlic is ; "thôm"

à +

Dom (Gretna - NE)

kahnjar1 · 24th June 2009, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

translation; could be
bawine ...
but what that means

by the way

- onion in arabic is ; "bazal"
- garlic is ; "thôm"

à +

Dom (Gretna - NE)

Thanks DOM for your translation and also your correction to my "onion" comment. I assumed wrongly that it would have meant the same!
Regards Stuart

20th June 2009, 03:03 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,772	ARABIC TRANSLATION AGAIN PLEASE I have had this Meccan Jambiya in my collection for several years and have just noticed this script on the blade. Not sure if it is the right way up but could someone please let me know what it says. Thanks Stuart Attached Images

22nd June 2009, 09:46 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Stuart, Can I ask a total newbie question? Your Dagger looks to me very 'classic' and rather fine. I have been thinking about the bulbous ends to the scabbards on these and I'm wondering what the 'classic' shape represents? Although superficially similar to mine, yours is totally different to the foliate 'pineapple' shape and cut of mine? Are their rules to what these represent even though the general bulbous shape is the same? Could you show a closer view of the end of yours please? Sorry, I know thats rather a lot of questions! lol Regards Gene

23rd June 2009, 04:30 AM	#3
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,772	The "bulb" is called a THUM and literally translates as a Garlic or Onion. Found mostly on Western Arabian knives from Asir /Meccan region, though it is also found on some Southern Arabian pieces, notibly the Hadramauti GUSBI. I guess the shape can be anything the maker dreams up as some are only very small while others are quite big. Regards Stuart

24th June 2009, 05:05 AM	#5
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	translation; could be bawine ... but what that means by the way - onion in arabic is ; "bazal" - garlic is ; "thôm" à + Dom (Gretna - NE)