Comments on my father's Keris

okhba3 · 13th February 2005, 01:16 PM

Hi guys,I would like to ask opinion about a Keris that my father has (picture attached). He asked me to find out any information about the Keris, so I read a few books and I try to search information about Keris in the internet. Then I found this discussion forum from Google search engine, and hope that you
guys can help me give any information about my father's Keris. I'm a complete beginner but based on what I have read, even though I'm not certain, I would say that the Keris has Dapur Nogososro, 11 luks. I can't tell about the Pamor. The Keris is probably from Cirebon, West Java.
Thanks in advanced.

Justin · 13th February 2005, 01:33 PM

Im sure some of our more knowledgeable keris collecters will be of more help but my initial impression is that Java is probably the country of origin,but to my unexperienced eyes it also has a lot of Madurese influence.

As to dapur and pamor I wont even hazard a guess,there are infinate variations of both so it can be very difficult to accurately identify the dapur and pamor of a keris.

To me it looks like something isnt quite right with it,the sheath looks far too plain to me for such an ornate keris,although the metal covering the sheath {pendok} looks like it could be swassa {Indonesian rose gold} but that ofcourse will have to be checked by a jeweler.

okhba3 · 14th February 2005, 01:02 AM

Thanks for your comment Justin. Indeed that when I asked my father, the sheath is not original. My grandfather got the Keris in return of someone in desperate need of money, but without the sheath. So he collected bits of gold, and asked someone to made the sheath for the Keris.

Alam Shah · 14th February 2005, 12:42 PM

Please post a few full blade pictures? With a full picture of the keris blade, other details can be posted. In my opinion, the sheath does not do justice to the blade.

okhba3 · 14th February 2005, 04:10 PM

Ok, here is what I've got at the moment, almost full picture of the blade. I will ask my father for another full picture of the blade, but it may take a couple of days, since I don't live with him and he probably cannot send it via email to me.

okhba3 · 16th February 2005, 12:13 AM

few added photos

13th February 2005, 01:16 PM	#1
okhba3 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 10	Comments on my father's Keris Hi guys,I would like to ask opinion about a Keris that my father has (picture attached). He asked me to find out any information about the Keris, so I read a few books and I try to search information about Keris in the internet. Then I found this discussion forum from Google search engine, and hope that you guys can help me give any information about my father's Keris. I'm a complete beginner but based on what I have read, even though I'm not certain, I would say that the Keris has Dapur Nogososro, 11 luks. I can't tell about the Pamor. The Keris is probably from Cirebon, West Java. Thanks in advanced. Attached Images

14th February 2005, 01:02 AM	#3
okhba3 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 10	The sheath is not original Thanks for your comment Justin. Indeed that when I asked my father, the sheath is not original. My grandfather got the Keris in return of someone in desperate need of money, but without the sheath. So he collected bits of gold, and asked someone to made the sheath for the Keris.

14th February 2005, 12:42 PM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Request for full blade...photo Please post a few full blade pictures? With a full picture of the keris blade, other details can be posted. In my opinion, the sheath does not do justice to the blade.

14th February 2005, 04:10 PM	#5
okhba3 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 10	more photo on the way Ok, here is what I've got at the moment, almost full picture of the blade. I will ask my father for another full picture of the blade, but it may take a couple of days, since I don't live with him and he probably cannot send it via email to me. Attached Images

16th February 2005, 12:13 AM	#6
okhba3 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 10	more photos few added photos Attached Images

13th February 2005, 01:33 PM	#2
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 175	Im sure some of our more knowledgeable keris collecters will be of more help but my initial impression is that Java is probably the country of origin,but to my unexperienced eyes it also has a lot of Madurese influence. As to dapur and pamor I wont even hazard a guess,there are infinate variations of both so it can be very difficult to accurately identify the dapur and pamor of a keris. To me it looks like something isnt quite right with it,the sheath looks far too plain to me for such an ornate keris,although the metal covering the sheath {pendok} looks like it could be swassa {Indonesian rose gold} but that ofcourse will have to be checked by a jeweler.