SANGI KNIFE

tanaruz · 11th September 2020, 08:37 AM

Hi friends,

A sangi knife. This was bought together with the Gopa Sibo knife. According to the seller, it also came from the Tagakaolo tribe. There was originally a small ID tag on this piece but was lost in time. It says 'Kaolu.'

Regards,

Yves

Ian · 11th September 2020, 01:16 PM

Yves,

Thanks again for sharing your family's collection. It's interesting how this style of work knife/woman's knife has diffused among various Lumad groups: Bagobo, T'boli, B'laan, Tagakaolo, etc. Tribal differences seem to be in the hilts and scabbards, with the blade form being much the same profile.

I would have difficulty distinguishing this one from a Bagobo example.

Ian.

tanaruz · 12th September 2020, 12:41 PM

Hi Sir Ian,

I saw this picture reference of sangi knives.

.'The one that I've posted here could very well be in the likeness of the 'kiping' type (b). Only my blade is said to come from the Kaolo tribe. I've noticed the different scabbard and blade profiles of item a,b and c. 'ilap' and 'kiping' might be the local dialect? for these types of knives. Just thinking.

We have these variants (a,b,c, in our collection). Will post it.

Regards

Yves

David · 14th September 2020, 09:59 PM

Here is a related thread.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sangi

Ian · 14th September 2020, 10:52 PM

Yves, thank you for the picture. I've enlarged it here so that we can read the text more easily. The Bagobo and T'boli attributions come from a Philippine museum source, and so we can probably accept them as accurate.

David, thanks for the link to the earlier thread that contains further helpful information about these knives. There is a National Geographic picture reproduced in that thread showing a Bagobo man wearing one of these utility knives (picture attached). Interestingly, the bells on the sheath of that knife are B'laan in origin.

Ian.
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Ian · 14th September 2020, 11:07 PM

In the immediately preceding post, there is a knife that is described as a kiping and attributed to the Bagobo people. I have a knife that bears a note saying it is a "Mandaya keping." This could also be a utility knife but of a different style to the sanggi. The blade resembles a small barung. Pictures are attached.

Ian.
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Ian · 14th September 2020, 11:31 PM

These pictures come from an online site here. The knife has been labeled as Bagobo in origin, but inspection shows that this is an entirely T'boli creation. The blade shows the typical, incised crescent shapes seen on T'boli tok swords, the brass hilt has typcial T'boli designs, and the brass bells on the hilt and scabbard are T'boli work.
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Marbel · 15th September 2020, 01:05 AM

Hello,

Just a few photos to add to the conversation.

JeffS · 17th April 2022, 06:52 AM

I've added another sangi example to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18261

11th September 2020, 08:37 AM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	SANGI KNIFE Hi friends, A sangi knife. This was bought together with the Gopa Sibo knife. According to the seller, it also came from the Tagakaolo tribe. There was originally a small ID tag on this piece but was lost in time. It says 'Kaolu.' Regards, Yves Attached Images

11th September 2020, 01:16 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Yves, Thanks again for sharing your family's collection. It's interesting how this style of work knife/woman's knife has diffused among various Lumad groups: Bagobo, T'boli, B'laan, Tagakaolo, etc. Tribal differences seem to be in the hilts and scabbards, with the blade form being much the same profile. I would have difficulty distinguishing this one from a Bagobo example. Ian. Attached Images

12th September 2020, 12:41 PM	#3
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	SANGI KNIFE Hi Sir Ian, I saw this picture reference of sangi knives. .'The one that I've posted here could very well be in the likeness of the 'kiping' type (b). Only my blade is said to come from the Kaolo tribe. I've noticed the different scabbard and blade profiles of item a,b and c. 'ilap' and 'kiping' might be the local dialect? for these types of knives. Just thinking. We have these variants (a,b,c, in our collection). Will post it. Regards Yves Attached Images

14th September 2020, 10:52 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Yves, thank you for the picture. I've enlarged it here so that we can read the text more easily. The Bagobo and T'boli attributions come from a Philippine museum source, and so we can probably accept them as accurate. David, thanks for the link to the earlier thread that contains further helpful information about these knives. There is a National Geographic picture reproduced in that thread showing a Bagobo man wearing one of these utility knives (picture attached). Interestingly, the bells on the sheath of that knife are B'laan in origin. Ian. . Attached Images

14th September 2020, 11:07 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	In the immediately preceding post, there is a knife that is described as a kiping and attributed to the Bagobo people. I have a knife that bears a note saying it is a "Mandaya keping." This could also be a utility knife but of a different style to the sanggi. The blade resembles a small barung. Pictures are attached. Ian. . Attached Images

14th September 2020, 09:59 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,120	Here is a related thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sangi

14th September 2020, 11:31 PM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,197	Another example--T'boli These pictures come from an online site here. The knife has been labeled as Bagobo in origin, but inspection shows that this is an entirely T'boli creation. The blade shows the typical, incised crescent shapes seen on T'boli tok swords, the brass hilt has typcial T'boli designs, and the brass bells on the hilt and scabbard are T'boli work. . Attached Images

15th September 2020, 01:05 AM	#8
Marbel Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 66	Sangi Hello, Just a few photos to add to the conversation. Attached Images

17th April 2022, 06:52 AM	#9
JeffS Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 342	I've added another sangi example to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18261