My second purchase from Auctions Imperial

Sajen · 20th March 2012, 08:08 PM

Beside from the talibon I win a second piece from AI at Timonium for unbelievable low money and this maybe only because Steve was so fixated to get the kampilan that he don't reconized this nice gunong!

http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...enum=1&lang=En
According to the description are the fittings at the scabbard from silver and the ferrule at the handle are from swasa. I have given a very low bid and never thought that I will win it by this price.
Here the pictures.

Indianajones · 20th March 2012, 08:16 PM

Nice purchases; it seems you are getting quite a Filipino collection (next to your Molucca)!
Good luck

Sajen · 20th March 2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianajones

Nice purchases; it seems you are getting quite a Filipino collection (next to your Molucca)!
Good luck

Yes, in the moment it is growing!

archer · 21st March 2012, 05:13 AM

Hi, I bid on line too. So far I haven't been notified. My bid was recorded as winning, so today I called and asked when I might be notified. I was told winning the on line bid was not final as our bids had to be compared bids at the auction, So I should know by the end of the week. Have you guys been notified?
Thanks, Steve

Sajen · 21st March 2012, 05:36 AM

Hello Archer,

I have get the bill already for my two items at Monday and paid with my credit card. Do have been declared/registered for bidding?

Regards,

Detlef

Robert · 21st March 2012, 07:15 AM

Beautiful gunong Detlef, I am very happy that you were able to add this to your ever growing Philippine collection. Do you have an idea on the age of this piece? My congratulations to you on being able to acquire this, I am jealous !!!

Robert

AJ1356 · 21st March 2012, 08:13 AM

Very nice, Imperial had lots of nice stuff this time.

kai · 21st March 2012, 10:12 AM

Congrats, Detlef, nice one! Please keep us posted when you receive these.

Seems like this year, again, some bids were not honoured and contributed to quite a few pieces going for much less than current market prices or what any straight ebay auction would have gained. I do wonder who commissions these pieces for auction when the auctioneer seems to repeatedly underperform.

Last year I had a confirmed CC and confirmed online bids; I should have been the high bidder on 3 pieces - none of these bids were honoured and all went for much less than my limit. I was not amused and neither were any of the sellers, I guess...

Needless to say, I didn't received any explanation from AI despite several tries from my side. Given the apparently erratic performance, I won't consider selling any piece from my collection through this auction.

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 21st March 2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Beautiful gunong Detlef, I am very happy that you were able to add this to your ever growing Philippine collection. Do you have an idea on the age of this piece? My congratulations to you on being able to acquire this, I am jealous !!!

Robert

Hi Robert,

thank's again! I would guess for the age around 1920-1930 but Jose will know it more exactly. In the description was told late 19th century but this I would take with a pinch of salt!

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 21st March 2012, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Very nice, Imperial had lots of nice stuff this time.

Thank you! Yes, some very nice items and I am curious to see by which prices they are sold!

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 21st March 2012, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Congrats, Detlef, nice one! Please keep us posted when you receive these.

Seems like this year, again, some bids were not honoured and contributed to quite a few pieces going for much less than current market prices or what any straight ebay auction would have gained. I do wonder who commissions these pieces for auction when the auctioneer seems to repeatedly underperform.

Last year I had a confirmed CC and confirmed online bids; I should have been the high bidder on 3 pieces - none of these bids were honoured and all went for much less than my limit. I was not amused and neither were any of the sellers, I guess...

Needless to say, I didn't received any explanation from AI despite several tries from my side. Given the apparently erratic performance, I won't consider selling any piece from my collection through this auction.

Regards,
Kai

Thank you Kai,

will post some more pictures when I have received it. Can add in the moment that it is 25 cm overall.

I was astonished for example that I get the talibon for $ 150 since the highest online bid have been by $ 170 (still I am). It seems that many bids are not honoured this time as well. And agree with you that I never won't consider selling any piece by AI.

Regards,

Detlef

VVV · 21st March 2012, 09:14 PM

$ 150!!!

That was a steal for this nice punal, congratulations Detlef.

Have you received a confirmation that you really got it?
I have also had the same kind of experience once as Kai with AI.

Michael

Sajen · 21st March 2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

$ 150!!!

That was a steal for this nice punal, congratulations Detlef.

Have you received a confirmation that you really got it?
I have also had the same kind of experience once as Kai with AI.

Michael

Hi Michael,

yes, a real steal! But not $ 150, this was for the talibon, $ 70 for the punal!!!! And yes again, have get an invoice and a confirmation that it will be shipped this week.

Regards,

Detlef

VVV · 21st March 2012, 10:34 PM

Hi Detlef,

Even better!
The Talibon/Garab is my favorite Visayan sword.

Michael

Battara · 21st March 2012, 11:24 PM

Sajen you are right in the estimate of age for this piece. Congratulations.

I would watch the oxidation process over the next couple of months - if it starts to oxidize dark then it is copper, if no change, then swassa. Of course a jeweler could test and find out for you........

Sajen · 22nd March 2012, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Sajen you are right in the estimate of age for this piece. Congratulations.

I would watch the oxidation process over the next couple of months - if it starts to oxidize dark then it is copper, if no change, then swassa. Of course a jeweler could test and find out for you........

Hello Jose,

thank you for confirming the age of the gunong. Since I have pieces made from swasa I hope that I can see it by the colour, when I will have doubts I will let test it.

Regards,

Detlef

Ferguson · 22nd March 2012, 03:25 AM

Very nice Detlef!
Steve

CharlesS · 22nd March 2012, 04:39 AM

Rsword and I both had a chance to see that one and really admired what we both thought was swassa. I hope we were right!

Congrats!

Sajen · 22nd March 2012, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Rsword and I both had a chance to see that one and really admired what we both thought was swassa. I hope we were right!

Congrats!

Thank you Charles, hope you and Rick are right as well!

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 4th April 2012, 01:56 PM

Have received the gunong and I am very pleased. But I am nearly sure that the "silver" fittings are just silver plated.

Next days I will take some additional pictures!

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 6th April 2012, 01:21 AM

Here as well some additional pictures.

20th March 2012, 08:08 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	My second purchase from Auctions Imperial Beside from the talibon I win a second piece from AI at Timonium for unbelievable low money and this maybe only because Steve was so fixated to get the kampilan that he don't reconized this nice gunong! http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.a...enum=1&lang=En According to the description are the fittings at the scabbard from silver and the ferrule at the handle are from swasa. I have given a very low bid and never thought that I will win it by this price. Here the pictures. Attached Images Last edited by Sajen; 21st March 2012 at 05:45 AM.

21st March 2012, 05:13 AM	#4
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	On line bids Hi, I bid on line too. So far I haven't been notified. My bid was recorded as winning, so today I called and asked when I might be notified. I was told winning the on line bid was not final as our bids had to be compared bids at the auction, So I should know by the end of the week. Have you guys been notified? Thanks, Steve

6th April 2012, 01:21 AM	#21
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Here as well some additional pictures. Attached Images

20th March 2012, 08:16 PM	#2
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Nice purchases; it seems you are getting quite a Filipino collection (next to your Molucca)! Good luck

21st March 2012, 05:36 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Hello Archer, I have get the bill already for my two items at Monday and paid with my credit card. Do have been declared/registered for bidding? Regards, Detlef

21st March 2012, 07:15 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Beautiful gunong Detlef, I am very happy that you were able to add this to your ever growing Philippine collection. Do you have an idea on the age of this piece? My congratulations to you on being able to acquire this, I am jealous !!! Robert

21st March 2012, 08:13 AM	#7
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Very nice, Imperial had lots of nice stuff this time.

21st March 2012, 10:12 AM	#8
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Congrats, Detlef, nice one! Please keep us posted when you receive these. Seems like this year, again, some bids were not honoured and contributed to quite a few pieces going for much less than current market prices or what any straight ebay auction would have gained. I do wonder who commissions these pieces for auction when the auctioneer seems to repeatedly underperform. Last year I had a confirmed CC and confirmed online bids; I should have been the high bidder on 3 pieces - none of these bids were honoured and all went for much less than my limit. I was not amused and neither were any of the sellers, I guess... Needless to say, I didn't received any explanation from AI despite several tries from my side. Given the apparently erratic performance, I won't consider selling any piece from my collection through this auction. Regards, Kai

21st March 2012, 09:14 PM	#12
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	$ 150!!! That was a steal for this nice punal, congratulations Detlef. Have you received a confirmation that you really got it? I have also had the same kind of experience once as Kai with AI. Michael

21st March 2012, 10:34 PM	#14
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Detlef, Even better! The Talibon/Garab is my favorite Visayan sword. Michael

21st March 2012, 11:24 PM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Sajen you are right in the estimate of age for this piece. Congratulations. I would watch the oxidation process over the next couple of months - if it starts to oxidize dark then it is copper, if no change, then swassa. Of course a jeweler could test and find out for you........

22nd March 2012, 03:25 AM	#17
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Very nice Detlef! Steve

22nd March 2012, 04:39 AM	#18
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Rsword and I both had a chance to see that one and really admired what we both thought was swassa. I hope we were right! Congrats!

4th April 2012, 01:56 PM	#20
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Have received the gunong and I am very pleased. But I am nearly sure that the "silver" fittings are just silver plated. Next days I will take some additional pictures! Regards, Detlef