Portuguese Matchlock?

bluelake · 15th October 2009, 03:16 PM

I am doing doctoral research on black powder and firearms in Korea's Joseon dynasty (1392-1910). Korea's main long arm, from the late 16th century to the late 19th century, was the matchlock. It was patterned after Japanese matchlocks, who had patterned theirs after ones brought by the Portuguese in the mid-16th century. However, I cannot seem to find a "Portuguese" matchlock to reference. Are there any pictures of them that anyone knows of? Also, Koreans show in their historical records that their matchlocks were improved after Dutch matchlocks fell into their hands in the mid-17th century; I wondering what improvements there might have been.

Thanks for any help!

T

Below are Korean matchlocks in display at the Korean Army Museum at the Korea Military Academy.

Atlantia · 15th October 2009, 07:11 PM

Interesting, I've never seen Korean matchlocks before. I've edited the pic to try and lighten it, hope you don't mind.

fernando · 15th October 2009, 07:15 PM

Hi, Bluelake welcome to the forum,
While members with more expertize don't show up, let me try and give a little empyrical aproach to the subject.
The so called Portuguese matchlock introduced in Japan, derives from the Bohemian Schnapp-Lunte, brought to Portugal and later taken to the Goa arsenals where it was subject to a local fusion, by influence of Portuguese Vice-Roys. It was from here, namely from the 'house of ten thousand muskets' that these weapons were spread to all Asia, including their introduction in Japan.
It is this system evolution that achieved the current name of Indo-Portuguese matchlock.
I guess it is not easy to find originals of these weapons; i have read that the Japanese officials have tried hard, and all they could find was some late versions.
If you care for some sketches, allusive designs, replicas and the like, i can post some material in this thread.
Fernando

fernando · 15th October 2009, 08:45 PM

Are these useful ?

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fernando · 15th October 2009, 08:46 PM

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bluelake · 16th October 2009, 01:04 AM

Thanks, everyone! The information is excellent. The drawings and pictures are very much appreciated.

Does anyone have any idea what kind of improvements would have come to Korea with Dutch matchlocks in the mid-17th century?

By the way, this past summer, while visiting my folks in the States, I spent a lot of my time shooting a Korean/Japanese reproduction matchlock I had a gunsmith craft for me. It was quite an experience in itself, as it helped me to understand that type of matchlock better.

15th October 2009, 03:16 PM	#1
bluelake Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gyeongsan, South Korea Posts: 57	Portuguese Matchlock? I am doing doctoral research on black powder and firearms in Korea's Joseon dynasty (1392-1910). Korea's main long arm, from the late 16th century to the late 19th century, was the matchlock. It was patterned after Japanese matchlocks, who had patterned theirs after ones brought by the Portuguese in the mid-16th century. However, I cannot seem to find a "Portuguese" matchlock to reference. Are there any pictures of them that anyone knows of? Also, Koreans show in their historical records that their matchlocks were improved after Dutch matchlocks fell into their hands in the mid-17th century; I wondering what improvements there might have been. Thanks for any help! T Below are Korean matchlocks in display at the Korean Army Museum at the Korea Military Academy. Attached Images

15th October 2009, 07:11 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Interesting, I've never seen Korean matchlocks before. I've edited the pic to try and lighten it, hope you don't mind. Attached Images

15th October 2009, 08:45 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Are these useful ? . Attached Images

15th October 2009, 08:46 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	. Attached Images

16th October 2009, 01:04 AM	#6
bluelake Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gyeongsan, South Korea Posts: 57	Thanks, everyone! The information is excellent. The drawings and pictures are very much appreciated. Does anyone have any idea what kind of improvements would have come to Korea with Dutch matchlocks in the mid-17th century? By the way, this past summer, while visiting my folks in the States, I spent a lot of my time shooting a Korean/Japanese reproduction matchlock I had a gunsmith craft for me. It was quite an experience in itself, as it helped me to understand that type of matchlock better. Attached Images

15th October 2009, 07:15 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi, Bluelake welcome to the forum, While members with more expertize don't show up, let me try and give a little empyrical aproach to the subject. The so called Portuguese matchlock introduced in Japan, derives from the Bohemian Schnapp-Lunte, brought to Portugal and later taken to the Goa arsenals where it was subject to a local fusion, by influence of Portuguese Vice-Roys. It was from here, namely from the 'house of ten thousand muskets' that these weapons were spread to all Asia, including their introduction in Japan. It is this system evolution that achieved the current name of Indo-Portuguese matchlock. I guess it is not easy to find originals of these weapons; i have read that the Japanese officials have tried hard, and all they could find was some late versions. If you care for some sketches, allusive designs, replicas and the like, i can post some material in this thread. Fernando