East African ?? Dagger

Terry K · 24th June 2017, 07:12 AM

I believe this is from east Africa but need your expert knowledge. I have a chance to own it but want to know if it's a tourist piece or a local used one. Approx. 12 inch overall with blade length about 7 1/2 inches long.
Thanks in advance,
Terry

Tim Simmons · 25th June 2017, 09:28 AM

When I used to collect African arms I never got one of these. I think these are Cameroon? Somebody will know .

Terry K · 25th June 2017, 02:21 PM

Thanks Tim,
I kind of like this stuff but know nothing about it. I don't want tourist pieces if I can help it.
Terry

Tim Simmons · 25th June 2017, 02:26 PM

Correction Liberia. Not tourist.

Terry K · 26th June 2017, 06:51 AM

Thanks Tim!
I did a search and found the same style dagger in another post. Manding people in west Africa. You were correct except they are in more than Liberia.
Thanks again,
Terry

TVV · 26th June 2017, 06:52 PM

Terry, are you absolutely satisfied with the Mandingo attribution? To me it seems that as we know very little about the weapons of West Africa compared to other regions of the world, there is a tendency to attribute almost everything coming from that part of the world to the Mandinka, with very little actual research to confirm this is indeed the case.

Teodor

Oriental-Arms · 27th June 2017, 09:26 AM

Another good exemplar.
Usually refered to in many text books as Mandingo. See for example: Manfred A. Zirngibl & Alexander Kubetz, "panga na visu" page20 Fig 4

Terry K · 28th June 2017, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVV

Terry, are you absolutely satisfied with the Mandingo attribution? To me it seems that as we know very little about the weapons of West Africa compared to other regions of the world, there is a tendency to attribute almost everything coming from that part of the world to the Mandinka, with very little actual research to confirm this is indeed the case.

Teodor

TVV,
I'm not sure about anything as I learn something new ever day.
Thanks,
Terry

Terry K · 28th June 2017, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriental-Arms

Another good exemplar.
Usually refered to in many text books as Mandingo. See for example: Manfred A. Zirngibl & Alexander Kubetz, "panga na visu" page20 Fig 4

Thanks much Oriental-Arms,
That really clears it up pretty good.
Shalom,
Terry

24th June 2017, 07:12 AM	#1
Terry K Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 86	East African ?? Dagger I believe this is from east Africa but need your expert knowledge. I have a chance to own it but want to know if it's a tourist piece or a local used one. Approx. 12 inch overall with blade length about 7 1/2 inches long. Thanks in advance, Terry Attached Images

27th June 2017, 09:26 AM	#7
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	Another good exemplar. Usually refered to in many text books as Mandingo. See for example: Manfred A. Zirngibl & Alexander Kubetz, "panga na visu" page20 Fig 4 Attached Images

25th June 2017, 09:28 AM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	When I used to collect African arms I never got one of these. I think these are Cameroon? Somebody will know .

25th June 2017, 02:21 PM	#3
Terry K Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 86	Thanks Tim, I kind of like this stuff but know nothing about it. I don't want tourist pieces if I can help it. Terry

25th June 2017, 02:26 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Correction Liberia. Not tourist.

26th June 2017, 06:51 AM	#5
Terry K Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 86	Thanks Tim! I did a search and found the same style dagger in another post. Manding people in west Africa. You were correct except they are in more than Liberia. Thanks again, Terry

26th June 2017, 06:52 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,621	Terry, are you absolutely satisfied with the Mandingo attribution? To me it seems that as we know very little about the weapons of West Africa compared to other regions of the world, there is a tendency to attribute almost everything coming from that part of the world to the Mandinka, with very little actual research to confirm this is indeed the case. Teodor