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Let me introduce this silver Badik with a well-made triangular blade. It was a very strange online buy from an auction house in Austria (Galerie Zacke). I placed my bid just for fun ~16 hours after the deadline, during the auction, and the bid was unreal low…winner.
The blade was covered with a dense layer of dark brown rust but no deep rust-pitting (pic 1). I polished the blade from grit 180->400->1000 to Steel wool from 00 to 0000. After around 15 hours of polishing (total loss of 2.3 Gramm material include the rust) the blade was ready for etching. For pattern welded steel I preferably use sodium persulfate (fine etch crystal), 20 Gramm in 100 mL distilled water (~70°C ) with a pad, brush or Syringe (pic 2). I am unsure about the origin of the blade; could it be European, the tip of a small sword or so? The forging is very fine and flawless. The shape and the symmetry are close to perfection; one still can see the hammer strokes, one by another in a narrow row, breathtaking for me. It is obviously laminated steel but hard to see if folded mono-steel or pattern welded steel of more than one kind (pic 3 & 4). It needs special equipment to forge such a type of blade, like different hammers with v-shaped cuts as far as I know. This makes me believe, it could be European. What is the opinion of the experts here? Another interesting fact is that the only tip of this blade is a permanent magnet, strong enough to lift up ~1 Gramm, my first magnetic blade. One picture (5) shows another Badik with a more traditional pattern welded blade, which is very thin, with a razor sharp cutting edge and a sharp back edge. The forging is also skillful made but much coarser compared to the triangular blade. What does the experts think about the origin of the blade and the age? All I know is written in the text and I am appreciative for any opinion. Measurements: Length of blade only: 27 cm Height at base: 20mm Thickness at base: 8.5 mm Weight without sheath: 175 Gramm Kind regards Roland |
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i like that.
i have heard of knives that have been static on one location for a long time gaining magnetism as the iron slowly aligns itself with the local earth field. i set little credence in it until one pf mine did. it could pick up a small paper clip. can't remember which one it was now, ![]() my badik no. one is simpler, like your other one, badek no. two is pamour bladed. note the swirl near the bolster, your black handled one seems to have a similar swirl in the pattern welding. |
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I would certainly have thought this was a European bayonet blade that had been cut down, but if that's a pamor pattern I am seeing in the pics, that throws out my theory.
Great, interesting, piece under any circumstances. |
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huh... i got a similar one. now this has my interest piqued. kinda like tres kantos from the Philippines. there was a label on mine that says "Senjata Tusuk, Sulawesi". if i'm not mistaken, that could be roughly translated as "stabbing weapon", which makes me wonder whoever wrote it probably made it up. but then again, you never know...
the blade is definitely laminated, Indo style. handle is made out of carabao horn. scabbard has rattan wraps, with the toe made out of bone or ivory, i'm not quite sure. measurements is as follows: length of blade = 9" (23cm) total length in scabbard = 13.5" (35cm) thanks for posting this, Roland! |
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Thank you very much Spunier for showing me your Badik with triangular blade.
I think, it is worth the effort to polish your blade and maybe etching it. The difference might be huge. Some people refuse to touch old blades but i think as japanese. A good blade must have a good polish. But it is quite difficult to polish a triangular blade without destroying its shape. If you are unexperienced, it would not be the best blade to start with. If you want, i can do the polishing job for you for nothing more than the shipping costs and maybe the sandpaper and Steel wool. I really like it and i still learning much about steel during the job. Best wishes Roland |
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European socket bayonet blade was a theory of one colleague of mine, during i was waiting for the blade. The shock was so big, my heart stops to pound for almost one Minute but at least for a few seconds. ![]() |
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I would polish the blade with the black hilt, the loss of material is not too big but your blade can became a real eyecandy. Thank you for showing. Best wishes Roland |
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Hello Roland,
never seen a badik like this, very unusual. I have a badik from Salayar island but with a starlike cross section, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik The scabbard/fittings again very similar to one from my collection which I think is from Sulawasi. When you want I can post pictures from it. Nice and unusual catch, congrats. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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yours is also a very nice and unusual example. "Tusuk" mean needle/spit so your translation is correct. I still would call it badik. Regards, Detlef |
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Here some fast taken pictures from my badik with similar fittings like Rolands example but with a "usual" blade shape.
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thank you for the translation, Detlef! in tagalog, "tusuk" means to poke, or stab. somewhat similar. a question tho; is the round base a particular trait in Sulawesi? I notice on some of the kerises, it has this particular piece. kinda like a stand...
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![]() The round base (buntut) is not only found by scabbards from Sulawesi but also in other parts of Indonesia but again mainly Bugis influenced parts. Malay keris scabbards can have this also. Regards, Detlef |
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Roland,
Try to make a search for 'magnetism' - maybe this will help you. Jens |
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![]() you can DE-magnatise iron by heating it to the curie temp (roughly 750C) but it must then be re heat treated and tempered, not recommended for a finished blade. electric degaussers would be better. as this temp is reached during forging, carbon steel blades are initially non-magnetic, picking up a charge later in life. some people have success degaussing by repeatedly dropping a magnetised tool on a hard floor, that again changes the magnetic field, but randomly. kinda rough on a knife tho. |
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=spear+bayonet Best regards, Willem |
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Here is an old spear with a similar point. old rusty.
I think its sumatran. |
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Hello Detlef,
Tank you for your warm words. I already know your blade, it was a reason to buy my one. Here are some pictures of the sheath. The Badik received sometimes a strong hit on the back of the hilt. I hope, it can be restored. I am looking for a specialst for this Job. Best wishes Roland |
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In the near future i will present a granular wootz dagger sculpture, which is far above european quality, simply incredible. Best wishes Roland |
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[QUOTE=kronckew] any piece of iron or carbon steel can be magnetized using another strong magnet, or electromagnet.[QUOTE]
Hello, no question about this. But this magnetism would not be permanent. I swear, i never manipulate the blade and the sheath is made from wood and silver. |
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[QUOTE=Roland_M][QUOTE=kronckew] any piece of iron or carbon steel can be magnetized using another strong magnet, or electromagnet.
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