Bucket/Pail

rickystl · 13th August 2017, 03:52 PM

I bought this small pail for almost free. LOL It has a copper plating on the outside (with losses), so I don't think it's very old. Maybe mid-20th Century (?). It's not galvanized, but does look like it has a tinned interior. It looks all handmade. The flat handle is heavy and the langets are solid brass. There is a small amount of dirt in the crevises of the langets. So I think someone used it as a plant hanger at some point. possibly what it was designed for (?).
Anyway, does anyone reconize the engraving on the side of the pail ? Possibly Indian ? Thanks for any help. I actually bought this for a specific purpose. LOL

Rick

Richard G · 13th August 2017, 06:50 PM

My guess would be southern Caucasus/northern Iran/eastern Anatolia area and probably older than you think.
Best wishes
Richard

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 13th August 2017, 07:19 PM

Drench tinning of objects was simply the cheap way of protecting the contents from leached poisoning of the green poisonous mould on brass and as they thought at the time copper... Taking no chances they did both and other utensils like spoons and ladles. The poison was verdigris .. and potentially fatal.

I conclude by suggesting a milk bucket or measure although I cannot read the cartouche.

M ELEY · 14th August 2017, 01:38 AM

Nice piece! Like the patina. I know the 'carouche' on the front looks Indo-Persian, but copper implements of Spanish colonial manufacture very much resembled this piece. Note the serpentine 'hooks' so similar to espada finials and knuckle bows. The simple line work and dot patterns also fit in. You can find SW colonial work like this ca 1850's-1920's buckets, pails, tea kettles etc.
That design in the front could just be decorative-

rickystl · 20th August 2017, 05:43 PM

Thank you ALL for your replies. Most interesting. I would have never guessed this origin. Much appreciated.

Rick

13th August 2017, 03:52 PM	#1
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Bucket/Pail I bought this small pail for almost free. LOL It has a copper plating on the outside (with losses), so I don't think it's very old. Maybe mid-20th Century (?). It's not galvanized, but does look like it has a tinned interior. It looks all handmade. The flat handle is heavy and the langets are solid brass. There is a small amount of dirt in the crevises of the langets. So I think someone used it as a plant hanger at some point. possibly what it was designed for (?). Anyway, does anyone reconize the engraving on the side of the pail ? Possibly Indian ? Thanks for any help. I actually bought this for a specific purpose. LOL Rick Attached Images

14th August 2017, 01:38 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,093	Nice piece! Like the patina. I know the 'carouche' on the front looks Indo-Persian, but copper implements of Spanish colonial manufacture very much resembled this piece. Note the serpentine 'hooks' so similar to espada finials and knuckle bows. The simple line work and dot patterns also fit in. You can find SW colonial work like this ca 1850's-1920's buckets, pails, tea kettles etc. That design in the front could just be decorative- Last edited by M ELEY; 14th August 2017 at 01:50 AM.

13th August 2017, 06:50 PM	#2
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 405	My guess would be southern Caucasus/northern Iran/eastern Anatolia area and probably older than you think. Best wishes Richard

13th August 2017, 07:19 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Drench tinning of objects was simply the cheap way of protecting the contents from leached poisoning of the green poisonous mould on brass and as they thought at the time copper... Taking no chances they did both and other utensils like spoons and ladles. The poison was verdigris .. and potentially fatal. I conclude by suggesting a milk bucket or measure although I cannot read the cartouche.

20th August 2017, 05:43 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Thank you ALL for your replies. Most interesting. I would have never guessed this origin. Much appreciated. Rick