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Hi all
I'm new menber Stay in Bangkok Thailand Poor in English ![]() Love to study in Thai's Sword and have some This is some Pic 18C-19C ![]() ![]() ![]() all is my Sword For more Pic http://thaiblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1854 |
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Greetings Bancha Thongkomol!
Thanks for sharing your photos. I'm becoming intrigued by the shape of the Thai swords and wonder how they handle in test cutting, dhafia beware...lolz Don't worry about your English, you are communicating fine, we are for the most part collectors, learning and sharing, also. MABAGANI |
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welcome bancha!
i'm intrigued at the second blade... how old is it? |
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Bancha.
Thanks for posting these pictures and the link to the Thai Blade Forum (unfortunately I don't read Thai). Very interesting pictures of some old blades. Do you know from which parts of Thailand these blades came? Is it possible that a couple of them may be Cambodian in origin? Look forward to seeing more of your collection. Regards, Ian. |
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Bancha,
Very nice daab! Those of us who collect them are always hungry for information - about age, about styles, about manufacture. It is great to see such a nice historical collection as yours. ![]() |
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They are many sword most from a Ayutthaya 75 KM Nort Bangkok Old Capital in 16C - 18C
The blades Sword no 1 Top is from Ayutthaya 17C-19C this styles found in Thailand and Cambodia Sword no 2 Is Rattanakosin ( Bangkok) Art on 19C Sword no 3 From Chopaya river at Ayutthaya Prov. Some One Diving and Fount I don’t Clean it so want to show Blade & Tang angle . This From How to Use Thai use sword in Same Logic of Muay Thai (Not Sport) maybe like this http://www.muaychaiya.com/index_en.html |
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Hey! Thanks for the links! Incase you might like to know, I'm a Thai, too, and I love Thai Krabi-krabong, both with weapon (especially swords) and empty hand!
Oh, I almost forgot! You can call me Knot! That's what they call me in Thai. |
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Hi Titus Pullo ........ My phone is 098107559
Sword 4 That about 500 year or more of Sukothai Prov. |
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Bancha, Yin dee don rap. Love the swords and even more than that the way you classified them by period. Would love to talk to you reference this. Will be in Thailand 3-23 July would like to meet and discuss swords. Can I call when I get into town?
Pope gern mai Khun Dang |
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1. Matching the Royal's Sword If some part same 2. Histry Art of Thai in Ayutthaya and Rattanakosin(BKK) Period 3. Origin of Sword some from Chopaya river in Ayutthaya Prov 4. The Technical >>> How that Sword Made One in Ayutthaya Period The the middle Part of the is fat (like me ![]() Yas Khun Dang can call to me Sword 5 and 7 from Chopaya river in Ayutthaya Prov No 7 ฟืก 8 We Call Hoa Pla Lod Blade (http://www.fishbase.org/comnames/Com...autoctr=129146) |
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1. Matching the Royal's Sword If some part same 2. Histry Art of Thai in Ayutthaya and Rattanakosin(BKK) Period 3. Origin of Sword some from Chopaya river in Ayutthaya Prov 4. The Technical >>> How that Sword Made One in Ayutthaya Period The the middle Part of the is fat (like me ![]() Yas Khun Dang can call to me Sword 5 and 7 from Chopaya river in Ayutthaya Prov No 7 and 8 We Call Hoa Pla Lod Blade (http://www.fishbase.org/comnames/Com...autoctr=129146) |
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Wonderful information! Can you elaborate a little on the technical aspects of dating daab? Is it mostly style (shape), or are there manufaturing methods or materials that can help date?
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bancha as Mark says, how we figure out what period or place they are from is sawnchai maak. i noticed that the National museum used this period classification also, but there was nothing that explained it.
P.S. Hi back at you Mark, survived another 6 months and am heading home next week. Khun Dang |
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Sorry was using my buddy's log-in on that last post.
Dan |
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I just talked with Khun Bancha yesterday...
For the questions, regarding to Dahbs ID, You will need to generalrize typical characteristics for Dahbs from different age and locale. So you will need to examine "population" of Dahbs. Sometime, you will also need to associate "art" on the sword with other native stuff (pottery, temple etc.) For Dahbs ID, Khun Bancha seems to use tang tyle/geometry, tang tilt, spine curve, edge curve, point style, tapering style, ratio between different regions, blade material etc. In many case, he also ID from hilt and scabbard. Only problems s' that some blades are come with new hilt or scabbard (or both). The story 's even more complicate. When some Dahbs were made to order and shipped to another city for sale. Smiths had produced the Dahbs in end-user style with a hint of the smiths characteristic. Another problem 's smiths themself migrated from one city to another (as prisoner of war). To overcome these problems, you will need to study them for decads (which I think you were ![]() I, myself, lack of decades experience. So I will need to learn from Khun Bancha and his [Dahb expert] friends. I invited him to this lovely forum and I hope that you may pick up some idea from his collection ![]() For Khun Bancha, is it better to show only one Dahb at a time with an extensive description about how did you get an idea for its age and locale. |
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Khun Bancha:
Thank you for showing us some of your daab and sharing information. I'm particularly interested in hearing more about the third sword from the bottom in the last picture you posted. Best, Andrew |
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SabbaiDee! Do you now any Lao?
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Top no 1 is Siver Sword can Found this Style in Central, North of Thai (Nan Prov.and around) and Lao No.2 Central to North Style . We Call this Blade is Hoa-Mon No.3 Form Lao the Handle is siver about 18C-19C We found this style in Lao's Royal Family (Viceroy) No.4 (Central to North Style) - No 5 (Thai+Japnese Style) Comming Soon ![]() No.6 Cambodia Sword |
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Sword no 4 19C Central+ North Style iron handdle
Sword no 5 19C Thai+Japnese Style masame hada made in Thailand |
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