Another Sudan dagger for comment

Lew · 17th January 2006, 02:23 AM

Hi All

This just ended another arm dagger but what is that needle thing for?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sahara-Desert-An...QQcmdZViewItem

Lew

Dom · 17th January 2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Hi All
This just ended another arm dagger but what is that needle thing for?
Lew

to remove the thorns from bush?
often, those arm dagger have a short metal part at extremity of the handle for that purpose
you are sure about the Sudanese origine for that dagger?

an other hand, Masaï have custom to take some quantity of blood from their cattles for their feeding, that long needle could be useful for that action

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Dom

Lew · 17th January 2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom

to remove the thorns from bush?
often, those arm dagger have a short metal part at extremity of the handle for that purpose
you are sure about the Sudanese origine for that dagger?

an other hand, Masaï have custom to take some quantity of blood from their cattles for their feeding, that long needle could be useful for that action

à +

Dom

Hi Dom
The seller said he obtained it was purchased it in the Sahara Desert in 1989 ?
It's not Massai and I do have a around 8 of these knives in my collection all with similar features its missing the disk pommel but it is could be a variation of that style of dagger. Where do you think it comes from?

Lew

Flavio · 17th January 2006, 05:31 PM

Definitively sudanese! Sometimes these daggers come with a needle or a tweezers. Nice dagger

Lew · 28th January 2006, 09:48 PM

The dagger arrived today. Here is a good pic of it. The hilt has a nice artistic finale on the butt.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 29th January 2006, 08:52 PM

Nice blade and scabbard. It looks as if it was quite old when the seller bought it. The needle looks like a darning needle you can get in any haberdashery, they are a rare sight these days. Is there a special holder for the needle or do you just push it in the scabbard before the knife? Does the needle have an eye? In the not to distant past nomadic or semi nomadic people of the area just had these things because they were useful, a bit like my Swiss Army knife

. How sad. Tim.

Rick · 29th January 2006, 09:03 PM

Interesting hilt material ; wood ?
The end grain looks very much like rhino horn .

nechesh · 29th January 2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Hi All

This just ended another arm dagger but what is that needle thing for?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sahara-Desert-An...QQcmdZViewItem

Lew

Well Lew, you know, they do say it's easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle then it is for a rich man to get into heaven.....and this is supposed to be a camel drivers knife.

Lew · 30th January 2006, 03:48 AM

[QUOTE=Tim Simmons]Nice blade and scabbard. It looks as if it was quite old when the seller bought it. The needle looks like a darning needle you can get in any haberdashery, they are a rare sight these days. Is there a special holder for the needle or do you just push it in the scabbard before the knife? Does the needle have an eye?

Tim

There is a section in the scabbard for the needle which btw has a eye and another spot next to where the needle sits that would hold another object?

Lew

Lew · 30th January 2006, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Interesting hilt material ; wood ?
The end grain looks very much like rhino horn .

Yes Rick it is a dense type of light colored wood.

Lew

17th January 2006, 02:23 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Another Sudan dagger for comment Hi All This just ended another arm dagger but what is that needle thing for? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sahara-Desert-An...QQcmdZViewItem Lew

28th January 2006, 09:48 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	The dagger arrived today. Here is a good pic of it. The hilt has a nice artistic finale on the butt. Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 29th January 2006 at 07:21 PM.

17th January 2006, 05:31 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Definitively sudanese! Sometimes these daggers come with a needle or a tweezers. Nice dagger

29th January 2006, 08:52 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Nice blade and scabbard. It looks as if it was quite old when the seller bought it. The needle looks like a darning needle you can get in any haberdashery, they are a rare sight these days. Is there a special holder for the needle or do you just push it in the scabbard before the knife? Does the needle have an eye? In the not to distant past nomadic or semi nomadic people of the area just had these things because they were useful, a bit like my Swiss Army knife . How sad. Tim.

29th January 2006, 09:03 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Interesting hilt material ; wood ? The end grain looks very much like rhino horn .

30th January 2006, 03:48 AM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	[QUOTE=Tim Simmons]Nice blade and scabbard. It looks as if it was quite old when the seller bought it. The needle looks like a darning needle you can get in any haberdashery, they are a rare sight these days. Is there a special holder for the needle or do you just push it in the scabbard before the knife? Does the needle have an eye? Tim There is a section in the scabbard for the needle which btw has a eye and another spot next to where the needle sits that would hold another object? Lew