Adeg Wengkon

Rick · 13th April 2012, 02:28 AM

New to me .

I can't imagine how difficult this was to make .

There appears to be a sepuhan(?) halfway up the wilah .

An old keris .

David · 13th April 2012, 06:14 AM

Very lovely....

Gustav · 13th April 2012, 11:39 AM

A nice keris indeed. Only pamor on gonjo is a little bit out of control.

Here a Riau keris with Adeg Wengkon. Sometimes you encounter Sumatran and Peninsula kerisses with some difficult kind of Pamor, which is fairly well done.

David · 13th April 2012, 04:22 PM

Nice example Gustav. Unusual work for this type of keris.

drdavid · 13th April 2012, 11:56 PM

Lovely Keris Gustav
Very unusual

Any chance of some more images Rick

drdavid

Rick · 14th April 2012, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by drdavid

Lovely Keris Gustav
Very unusual

Any chance of some more images Rick

drdavid

The other side and wrongko .

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Karttikeya · 14th April 2012, 06:02 AM

Well executed Adeg Wengkon..I don't want to comment its making process because I am no more than keris lover. I have shared a blade with interesting pamor, probably anybody can tell me what is pamor's name.

Marcokeris · 14th April 2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

The other side and wrongko .

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Beautiful keris in beautiful dress

Jean · 14th April 2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

The other side and wrongko .

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Very nice kris but from the pictures the tikel alis? and pejetan look a bit odd, may be just an impression.
Regards

drdavid · 14th April 2012, 12:53 PM

Thanks Rick, elegance is the best word to describe this. The pendok works beautifully
drdavid

Rick · 14th April 2012, 04:56 PM

I'm glad you like it .

The repousse work on the pendok is quite detailed compared to newer examples .

David · 14th April 2012, 06:41 PM

Karttikeya, might i suggest that you start a new thread for your keris. Since it is not a adeg wengkon pamor it seems a bit out of place in this discussion.

David · 14th April 2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Very nice kris but from the pictures the tikel alis? and pejetan look a bit odd, may be just an impression.
Regards

Jean, i am uncertain exactly what you mean by odd (size?shape?position?altered?), but i think that the way the pamor lies in both these areas coupled with the way the keris has been photographed might might be a little misleading as to the actual form.

Rick, can you take some close-ups of this area?

Rick · 14th April 2012, 08:04 PM

Sure David .

The details seem fairly typical of Jogja work .
The pamor does confuse the eye .
Note the different color of the core material .

dbhmgb · 14th April 2012, 11:19 PM

Hello, this is my first post and, Rick, I wanted to tell you that your keris and its dress is very attractive! I like it very much.

Rick · 14th April 2012, 11:42 PM

Hi and welcome to the warung !

I'm glad you like the keris .

David · 15th April 2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dbhmgb

Hello, this is my first post and, Rick, I wanted to tell you that your keris and its dress is very attractive! I like it very much.

Hey Dan, welcome to the forum. I think you will like it here. Be sure to read the forum guideline carefully though...

dbhmgb · 15th April 2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Hey Dan, welcome to the forum. I think you will like it here. Be sure to read the forum guideline carefully though...

Hello David and thanks for the welcome! I'll read it again, just to be sure!

Jean · 15th April 2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Sure David .

The details seem fairly typical of Jogja work .
The pamor does confuse the eye .
Note the different color of the core material .

Hi Rick,
Thanks for the detailed pictures of the sorsoran, very nice.
What I meant by "odd" from the original pictures is that because of the tikel alis the pamor line is wider on the gandik, and the pejetan does not look perfecty symmetrical, but it is not a big deal.

Regards

Rick · 16th April 2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Hi Rick,
Thanks for the detailed pictures of the sorsoran, very nice.
What I meant by "odd" from the original pictures is that because of the tikel alis the pamor line is wider on the gandik, and the pejetan does not look perfecty symmetrical, but it is not a big deal.

Regards

I agree, Jean; not a big deal .

In the hand it is a bit better .

Rick

Sajen · 16th April 2012, 08:33 PM

I like you keris very much Rick, thank you for sharing!

And as well thank's to Gustav for showing this beautiful Bugis keris!

Regards,

Detlef

Jussi M. · 11th June 2012, 11:03 PM

Worth a bump!

Rick · 12th June 2012, 01:35 AM

Well, I still like it very much, Jussi .

I think the dress has a nice combined 'presence' ; in keeping with the quality of the Wilah .

I guess when I look at The Solyums' book and I see the size of the rough forging required, then think that somewhere in there when this particular blade was forged was pre-planned this keris ...

Well then I am in awe ...

Hartadi · 17th June 2012, 05:38 PM

another technic of wengkon, it was pain to see the edge of blade splitted out already :

Sajen · 17th June 2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartadi

another technic of wengkon, it was pain to see the edge of blade splitted out already :

Still beautiful!!

Gustav · 17th June 2012, 08:38 PM

Good pamor work, yet looks to me like a new keris artificially (and aggressively) aged.

A pity, it would be not a bad keris in original state.

A. G. Maisey · 18th June 2012, 01:20 AM

The Hartadi keris, Gustav?

Yes, in the pics it does look recent, but I don't think it is.

I cannot know with any certainty from the pics and would need to handle it, but there are a number of stylistic characteristics that are at variance with current production keris. It would not surprise me if this keris does have a bit of age.

Hartadi · 18th June 2012, 02:32 AM

the wengkon's on my blade is firmly borded vertical arround pamor. thats why on some point we can see clearly the space (gap) between pamor, wengkon, and the iron

Gustav, i'm agree with Alan that mine is the old blade. splitted iron is on the edge (pucukan) will attached some more pics in advance

Hartadi · 18th June 2012, 02:43 AM

some pictures

13th April 2012, 02:28 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Adeg Wengkon New to me . I can't imagine how difficult this was to make . There appears to be a sepuhan(?) halfway up the wilah . An old keris . Attached Images

13th April 2012, 11:39 AM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	A nice keris indeed. Only pamor on gonjo is a little bit out of control. Here a Riau keris with Adeg Wengkon. Sometimes you encounter Sumatran and Peninsula kerisses with some difficult kind of Pamor, which is fairly well done. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 13th April 2012 at 03:43 PM. Reason: picture quality improved

14th April 2012, 06:02 AM	#7
Karttikeya Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 54	Well executed Adeg Wengkon..I don't want to comment its making process because I am no more than keris lover. I have shared a blade with interesting pamor, probably anybody can tell me what is pamor's name. Attached Images

14th April 2012, 08:04 PM	#14
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Sure David . The details seem fairly typical of Jogja work . The pamor does confuse the eye . Note the different color of the core material . Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 14th April 2012 at 08:20 PM.

12th June 2012, 01:35 AM	#23
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Well, I still like it very much, Jussi . I think the dress has a nice combined 'presence' ; in keeping with the quality of the Wilah . I guess when I look at The Solyums' book and I see the size of the rough forging required, then think that somewhere in there when this particular blade was forged was pre-planned this keris ... Well then I am in awe ... Last edited by Rick; 12th June 2012 at 01:58 AM.

13th April 2012, 06:14 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Very lovely....

13th April 2012, 04:22 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Nice example Gustav. Unusual work for this type of keris.

13th April 2012, 11:56 PM	#5
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Lovely Keris Gustav Very unusual Any chance of some more images Rick drdavid

14th April 2012, 12:53 PM	#10
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 371	Thanks Rick, elegance is the best word to describe this. The pendok works beautifully drdavid

14th April 2012, 04:56 PM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I'm glad you like it . The repousse work on the pendok is quite detailed compared to newer examples .

14th April 2012, 06:41 PM	#12
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Karttikeya, might i suggest that you start a new thread for your keris. Since it is not a adeg wengkon pamor it seems a bit out of place in this discussion.

14th April 2012, 11:19 PM	#15
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Hello, this is my first post and, Rick, I wanted to tell you that your keris and its dress is very attractive! I like it very much.

14th April 2012, 11:42 PM	#16
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi and welcome to the warung ! I'm glad you like the keris .

16th April 2012, 08:33 PM	#21
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	I like you keris very much Rick, thank you for sharing! And as well thank's to Gustav for showing this beautiful Bugis keris! Regards, Detlef

11th June 2012, 11:03 PM	#22
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	Worth a bump!

17th June 2012, 05:38 PM	#24
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	another technic of wengkon, it was pain to see the edge of blade splitted out already : Attached Images

17th June 2012, 08:38 PM	#26
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Good pamor work, yet looks to me like a new keris artificially (and aggressively) aged. A pity, it would be not a bad keris in original state.

18th June 2012, 01:20 AM	#27
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	The Hartadi keris, Gustav? Yes, in the pics it does look recent, but I don't think it is. I cannot know with any certainty from the pics and would need to handle it, but there are a number of stylistic characteristics that are at variance with current production keris. It would not surprise me if this keris does have a bit of age.

18th June 2012, 02:32 AM	#28
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	the wengkon's on my blade is firmly borded vertical arround pamor. thats why on some point we can see clearly the space (gap) between pamor, wengkon, and the iron Gustav, i'm agree with Alan that mine is the old blade. splitted iron is on the edge (pucukan) will attached some more pics in advance

18th June 2012, 02:43 AM	#29
Hartadi Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 56	some pictures Attached Images