French sword(?)

corrado26 · 21st March 2020, 04:30 PM

I got this sword this morning. Its total length is 915 mm, the blade has 750 mm and the weight is 401 g. Is it really a French item? Remarks/opinions are invited.
corrado26

fernando · 21st March 2020, 08:07 PM

French ...why not, Udo ? Have you looked at pictures in AVB Norman's work, namely plate 145 ?
All i can say for sure is that it is an extremely fine example ... wherever it is from

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Will M · 22nd March 2020, 05:16 PM

Very exquisite sword, if you could only have one of this type it definitely suffice.
Try searching here: https://www.rct.uk/

Yvain · 22nd March 2020, 05:27 PM

Some times ago, I studied a shell-guard really similar to the one on your sword. It is conserved in the Bernard d'Agesci museum in Niort, and is described as French, around 1750 - 1760 : http://expo-ornement.edel.univ-poiti.../notice-8.html

M ELEY · 23rd March 2020, 05:42 AM

A most excellent example, Udo! Agree with Will that this would be an excellent example of the type as a whole.

corrado26 · 23rd March 2020, 09:42 AM

Many thanks for these convincing and helpful informations.
corrado26

Peter Andeweg · 30th March 2020, 04:28 PM

A 18th century French officers sword indeed, I sold a similar example in 2017, some ballistoil applied with a soft toothbrush would really help conservate the gold.

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Hotspur · 2nd April 2020, 05:38 AM

Origin may be determined by the base metal and whether it is silver or Britannia metal. As it shows no (apparent to me) motif for the republic, Louis XV era and a French officer's smallsword fits pretty well.

Cheers
GC

Check it with a magnet, as it might also be cast steel. That would be likely French made.

21st March 2020, 04:30 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	French sword(?) I got this sword this morning. Its total length is 915 mm, the blade has 750 mm and the weight is 401 g. Is it really a French item? Remarks/opinions are invited. corrado26 Attached Images

30th March 2020, 04:28 PM	#7
Peter Andeweg Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Vlissingen, Netherlands Posts: 71	A 18th century French officers sword indeed, I sold a similar example in 2017, some ballistoil applied with a soft toothbrush would really help conservate the gold. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 31st March 2020 at 10:27 AM.

21st March 2020, 08:07 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	French ...why not, Udo ? Have you looked at pictures in AVB Norman's work, namely plate 145 ? All i can say for sure is that it is an extremely fine example ... wherever it is from .

22nd March 2020, 05:16 PM	#3
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 391	Very exquisite sword, if you could only have one of this type it definitely suffice. Try searching here: https://www.rct.uk/

22nd March 2020, 05:27 PM	#4
Yvain Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: France Posts: 178	Some times ago, I studied a shell-guard really similar to the one on your sword. It is conserved in the Bernard d'Agesci museum in Niort, and is described as French, around 1750 - 1760 : http://expo-ornement.edel.univ-poiti.../notice-8.html

23rd March 2020, 05:42 AM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	A most excellent example, Udo! Agree with Will that this would be an excellent example of the type as a whole.

23rd March 2020, 09:42 AM	#6
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Many thanks for these convincing and helpful informations. corrado26

2nd April 2020, 05:38 AM	#8
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 499	Origin may be determined by the base metal and whether it is silver or Britannia metal. As it shows no (apparent to me) motif for the republic, Louis XV era and a French officer's smallsword fits pretty well. Cheers GC Check it with a magnet, as it might also be cast steel. That would be likely French made.