Trench Knife or Hunting Knife??

ericlaude · 26th December 2011, 07:48 PM

Hello,
I found this knife in a lot of 5 knife that I bought . I think it's French but I'm not sure, someone can help me about what is it?
The handle is made of horn, The added pommel is engraved with initials (JC). The blade with four sides is very sharp. The brass scabbard has the same form as the blade .
Ovll Length 11 "(27.5)
Blade 6 "(15 cm)
Thanks in advance

ericlaude · 26th December 2011, 07:49 PM

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thinreadline · 29th December 2011, 04:15 PM

when I first saw this I thought the handle was from an old carving knife and the blade was from a French Lebel bayonet ... however the difficulty in curving the the normally straight Lebel blade is one thing, but making a scabbard of the correct profile to fit it is quite another order of difficulty , so I am thinking was this made from scratch rather than made up of pre existing adapted parts. It seems over elaborate as a trench knife .

Lew · 29th December 2011, 04:29 PM

Definately French probably a hunting dagger or one used for self protection

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hbhansen · 29th December 2011, 10:44 PM

This could be a hunting dagger, for use on injured deer. You stick it in the hole, in the back of the skull, to kill the deer. Maybe it has got 4 sides, so that it will not break when the deer moves.
I carry a knife myself for the same purpose, when hunting deer...
Best regards
Henrik

thinreadline · 30th December 2011, 03:14 AM

I can see this being used as a personal weapon , but most hunting weapons are traditionally edged weapons proper . Granted this could be used for administering the coup de grace to a wounded quarry , but not for skinning , gralloching or jointing ... in which case yet another knife would have had to have been carried .

hbhansen · 30th December 2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

I can see this being used as a personal weapon , but most hunting weapons are traditionally edged weapons proper . Granted this could be used for administering the coup de grace to a wounded quarry , but not for skinning , gralloching or jointing ... in which case yet another knife would have had to have been carried .

You're right about that. I personally carry another ekstra knife for skinning etc.

thinreadline · 30th December 2011, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbhansen

This could be a hunting dagger, for use on injured deer. You stick it in the hole, in the back of the skull, to kill the deer. Maybe it has got 4 sides, so that it will not break if the deer moves.
I carry a knife myself for the same purpose, when hunting deer...
Best regards
Henrik

Yes this design gives rigidity & strength but with lightness compared to the standard stiletto . Yet it is not commonly encountered , maybe as it is more difficult to make . It is seen in some 20th century bayonets .. eg the French Lebel of WW1 & the British 1st pattern 'spike' bayonet for the No 4 Lee Enfield of WW2 ( see pics ) .

hbhansen · 30th December 2011, 08:55 PM

One more thought: Stilettos/bayonets and other blades made for stabbing another human has normally got a straight blade. I think the curved blade of this one would be quite good for the " coup de grace ". It's actually a difficult thing to do, but I'm quite shure the curved blade would help...

kronckew · 31st December 2011, 02:24 PM

i've seen something like this before, can't remember where, but it had a fancy cross guard on it, this one seems to be missing it at the blade/stag junction. i vaguely remember scandinavian, but maybe not.

26th December 2011, 07:48 PM	#1
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Trench Knife or Hunting Knife?? Hello, I found this knife in a lot of 5 knife that I bought . I think it's French but I'm not sure, someone can help me about what is it? The handle is made of horn, The added pommel is engraved with initials (JC). The blade with four sides is very sharp. The brass scabbard has the same form as the blade . Ovll Length 11 "(27.5) Blade 6 "(15 cm) Thanks in advance Attached Images

26th December 2011, 07:49 PM	#2
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	2 others photos Attached Images

29th December 2011, 04:15 PM	#3
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	when I first saw this I thought the handle was from an old carving knife and the blade was from a French Lebel bayonet ... however the difficulty in curving the the normally straight Lebel blade is one thing, but making a scabbard of the correct profile to fit it is quite another order of difficulty , so I am thinking was this made from scratch rather than made up of pre existing adapted parts. It seems over elaborate as a trench knife .

29th December 2011, 04:29 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Definately French probably a hunting dagger or one used for self protection .

29th December 2011, 10:44 PM	#5
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	This could be a hunting dagger, for use on injured deer. You stick it in the hole, in the back of the skull, to kill the deer. Maybe it has got 4 sides, so that it will not break when the deer moves. I carry a knife myself for the same purpose, when hunting deer... Best regards Henrik

30th December 2011, 03:14 AM	#6
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	I can see this being used as a personal weapon , but most hunting weapons are traditionally edged weapons proper . Granted this could be used for administering the coup de grace to a wounded quarry , but not for skinning , gralloching or jointing ... in which case yet another knife would have had to have been carried .

30th December 2011, 08:55 PM	#9
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	One more thought: Stilettos/bayonets and other blades made for stabbing another human has normally got a straight blade. I think the curved blade of this one would be quite good for the " coup de grace ". It's actually a difficult thing to do, but I'm quite shure the curved blade would help...

31st December 2011, 02:24 PM	#10
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	i've seen something like this before, can't remember where, but it had a fancy cross guard on it, this one seems to be missing it at the blade/stag junction. i vaguely remember scandinavian, but maybe not.