Simple fancy Dusägge

AHorsa · 6th January 2017, 03:56 PM

Dear All,

Happy new year!

I just purchased this Dusägge. Should be around 1600. The decoration, especially the pommel, is kind of fancy. Sadly the condition is quite poor. It was covered with paint, I just removed as well as I could. Will give it a bit more treatment the next days.
On the blade I found some marks, which appear to me as 3 crowns (the middle one seems to be mostly gone by rust). Does anyone know this mark?

A similar piece is shown at

https://digitaltmuseum.se/0110244163...%22S-AM%22&i=6

This piece is dated as beginning 17th century. Do you think that´s also fitting to my one?

Looking forward to your comments.

Cheerio
Andreas

fernando · 7th January 2017, 01:22 PM

You are right Andreas; it looks like three King's heads, a mark typically used by Solingen smiths ... the Wundes family ?

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AHorsa · 9th January 2017, 11:18 AM

Hi Fernando,

thanks for the hint with the king´s heads. I think you are right.

Cheers
Andreas

AHorsa · 10th January 2017, 02:15 PM

Does anyone have some information about the style of the pommel and the crossguard? I have never seen a similiar one except the one from the link.

Best regards
Andreas

cornelistromp · 10th January 2017, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AHorsa

Does anyone have some information about the style of the pommel and the crossguard? I have never seen a similiar one except the one from the link.

Best regards
Andreas

yes, the former curator of the Dutch army museum describes this type as a Dutch maritime saber around 1600 with origin Solingen.

a drawing of this type can be seen on

http://www.adviesoudewapens.nl/

I will check if I have a picture of it somewhere.

best,
Jasper

AHorsa · 11th January 2017, 08:05 AM

Hi Jasper,

that´s great!!! Very nice! Thanks!

Best regards
Andreas

fernando · 11th January 2017, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHorsa

Hi Jasper,

that´s great!!! Very nice! Thanks!

Best regards
Andreas

Yes indeed, Jasper

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AHorsa · 11th January 2017, 07:25 PM

I just browsed the book "J. P. Puype (1981): Blanke Wapens - Nederlandse Slag- en steekwapens sinds 1600" and found the sword from the drawing on page 37 (s. image).

Thanks again Jasper!

Cheers
Andreas

cornelistromp · 12th January 2017, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHorsa

I just browsed the book "J. P. Puype (1981): Blanke Wapens - Nederlandse Slag- en steekwapens sinds 1600" and found the sword from the drawing on page 37 (s. image).

Thanks again Jasper!

Cheers
Andreas

M ELEY · 13th January 2017, 06:31 AM

I had heard that these dusagge and 'Sinclaire' types saw sea service and it is nice to see some supporting evidence here!

Trond · 8th May 2017, 09:22 PM

King Christian IV of Denmark & Norway bought some 8000 of these in the period 1587-1607 in order to arm the Norwegian farmers. In 1604 he published a new Norwegian law book describing the arms each and every farmer should have, according to the farms size. The small farmer should have a pike, the somewhat larger should have a war axe or a tessak, the wealthier farmers should also have a 'suitable musket'. Four of the really large farm should go together an fund a professional soldier with weapons, horse av salary.

In Denmark it was the nobility that had soldiers and took in the taxes, the king only had 'Livgarden til hest og til fods' (The Life-guard on horse or on feet) and collected import tax from the Øresund straits). He's main income were the Norwegian taxes and his possibility of gathering an army was Norway.

Every year there was a 'våpenting' where the farmer in each district had to show their weapons and that they were in order. If not, they were fined.

My collection of Norwegian military arms therefor starts in 1604 ad I've made a little page on the tessak's, as we call them: http://norskevaapen.no/?p=1776

6th January 2017, 03:56 PM	#1
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 367	Simple fancy Dusägge Dear All, Happy new year! I just purchased this Dusägge. Should be around 1600. The decoration, especially the pommel, is kind of fancy. Sadly the condition is quite poor. It was covered with paint, I just removed as well as I could. Will give it a bit more treatment the next days. On the blade I found some marks, which appear to me as 3 crowns (the middle one seems to be mostly gone by rust). Does anyone know this mark? A similar piece is shown at https://digitaltmuseum.se/0110244163...%22S-AM%22&i=6 This piece is dated as beginning 17th century. Do you think that´s also fitting to my one? Looking forward to your comments. Cheerio Andreas Attached Images

11th January 2017, 07:25 PM	#8
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 367	I just browsed the book "J. P. Puype (1981): Blanke Wapens - Nederlandse Slag- en steekwapens sinds 1600" and found the sword from the drawing on page 37 (s. image). Thanks again Jasper! Cheers Andreas Attached Images

7th January 2017, 01:22 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	You are right Andreas; it looks like three King's heads, a mark typically used by Solingen smiths ... the Wundes family ? .

9th January 2017, 11:18 AM	#3
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 367	Hi Fernando, thanks for the hint with the king´s heads. I think you are right. Cheers Andreas

10th January 2017, 02:15 PM	#4
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 367	Does anyone have some information about the style of the pommel and the crossguard? I have never seen a similiar one except the one from the link. Best regards Andreas

11th January 2017, 08:05 AM	#6
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 367	Hi Jasper, that´s great!!! Very nice! Thanks! Best regards Andreas

13th January 2017, 06:31 AM	#10
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,100	I had heard that these dusagge and 'Sinclaire' types saw sea service and it is nice to see some supporting evidence here!

8th May 2017, 09:22 PM	#11
Trond Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 30	King Christian IV of Denmark & Norway bought some 8000 of these in the period 1587-1607 in order to arm the Norwegian farmers. In 1604 he published a new Norwegian law book describing the arms each and every farmer should have, according to the farms size. The small farmer should have a pike, the somewhat larger should have a war axe or a tessak, the wealthier farmers should also have a 'suitable musket'. Four of the really large farm should go together an fund a professional soldier with weapons, horse av salary. In Denmark it was the nobility that had soldiers and took in the taxes, the king only had 'Livgarden til hest og til fods' (The Life-guard on horse or on feet) and collected import tax from the Øresund straits). He's main income were the Norwegian taxes and his possibility of gathering an army was Norway. Every year there was a 'våpenting' where the farmer in each district had to show their weapons and that they were in order. If not, they were fined. My collection of Norwegian military arms therefor starts in 1604 ad I've made a little page on the tessak's, as we call them: http://norskevaapen.no/?p=1776