small kriss-pedang dagger

[francantolin]

Hello dear members,

I'd like please your advice and opinion about this dagger,

It looks like a pedang lurus but here it's more a small dagger ( 15 inches long with scabbard )

The hilt seems made of better quality ( and older ?)than the scabbard,

I find the ornaments on the scabbard made in a '' mechanical'' way,
not silver I think, seems too stiff

The blade is interesting : large and thick,
lamination on the blade reminds me some kriss blades so I wanted to show it to you...

[mariusgmioc]

I am definitely a novice in what concerns Indonesian weapons, but to my novice eyes, this looks like a repurposed spear tip with a pedang hilt.

[Jean]

Yes, a pedang/ tombak, not a kris

[francantolin]

Hello,

Thank you Jean and Marius for your messages,

the tombak is the javanese name for a spear head, am I right ?
any idea about age of the spear head ?
Do they blacksmiths forge it with the same steel/pamor than for kriss blades ?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by francantolin

the tombak is the javanese name for a spear head, am I right ?

Yes, correct, but the Indonesian name.

Originally Posted by francantolin

any idea about age of the spear head ?

Difficult to say, the pesi (tang) could give some clues.

Originally Posted by francantolin

Do they blacksmiths forge it with the same steel/pamor than for kriss blades ?

Yes!

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Like Jean already said, it's not a keris and need to moved to the other discussion forum.

[David]

I agree this is not a keris and i am moving it to the Ethno section for further discussion.