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Hello members,
I have just bought this Visayan tenegre by best offer. What do you think? A part of the nose seems to be reglued and a small piece of the nose tip is missing. Special the age of this piece would be of great interest for me. Regards, Detlef |
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Hello Detlef, By looking at the carving I would guess that it is second quarter 20th century "1925-1950" and if I had to narrow it down I would say 1935-1945. That would be my best guess but it is just that, a guess. Others with more knowledge will answer and be able to give you a more exact age that I can. A very nice item though and my congratulation on your new acquisition to your collection.
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thank you! Have hoped that it is a little bit older but still ok by the price I have paid for. ![]() Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 30th April 2011 at 05:42 PM. |
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It is a lowlander tenegre. I guess it could be a little older, say 1920, but I am in agreement with Robert on this. STill not a bad little piece. Congrats!
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Very nice Detlef. Congrats on this very nice piece.
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Hello Jose,
thank you ver much for your comment and narrow down the origin. ![]() Hello Henk, also to you thank's! I ever want to have such a tenegre and this one was cheap and with complete sheath. Look here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT Regards, Detlef |
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Hello Detlef,
Certainly a nice grab complete with good scabbard. Is the brass ferrule strong? (Looks a bit thin from the pics.) Could this be an early 20th c. blade that got rehilted later (like WW2 or thereabouts)? The workmanship and wear on the hilt doesn't look on par with the blade and scabbard IMVHO. Regards, Kai |
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Hello Kai, thank you for comment. ![]() Regarding the hilt you may be correct as it seems that the hilt isn't deep enough on the tang. ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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I think Kai has a point (get it!
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The brass ferrule is a little bit more than 1 mm. I don't know how strong it is by older ones. The tip of the blade was compressed but this I have grinded with a stone. Will post some pictures later. Regards, Detlef |
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Hello Detlef,
I am looking forward to seeing the new pictures of this very nice piece. When you post them could you please also post the measurements, total length of the sword, blade length, width at the widest point and the thickness of the blade at the hilt? Again congratulations on a very nice score. Robert |
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here at first the measurements. Total length: 61 cm (24 inch), blade: 45,5 (17.9), width at the widest point: 4,5 (1.8) and the thickness near the hilt is 1,6 mm (0,06). I have oiled the wooden parts with a wood oil and the leather with dubbin and the blade I oiled with WD40. Some questions to you and all others: I think that there is a missing guard down under the handle, what do you think? Shall I clean the brass parts? I personally think it is better to keep them like this. Shall I clean the blade more? Here some additional pictures taken with flash light. Regards, Detlef |
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My best guess is that the blade got just sloppily fitted when the rehilting was done. Should be fairly easy to get a better fit if you reattach the blade. Quote:
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Kai is right it is possible to straighten out the blade without regrinding it. I have done this plenty of times but very carefully with soft hammers, especially if it is in the temper line.
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Hello Kai, you are correct, my mistake by the thickness of the blade, 6,1 mm is the correct measurement. I will dismantling the handle and follow your advice about etching and reattaching the handle. The compression at the blade tip was very very minor, like someone bump the blade on the ground, look the picture, the shape of the blade isn't changed. Thank you very much, Detlef |
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Hello Jose, next time I will follow your and Kai's advice to straighten out the demage. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 21st May 2011 at 02:14 PM. |
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thank you for the comment. Like I write before I will dismantling the handle next time and etch the blade before I attach the handle again. The brass fittings I will let alone for the moment since I like the patina and don't want to bring the sword to a unused look. I will post pictures when I have done the work. Best regards, Detlef |
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