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Hello members,
yesterday I bought by ebay this barong :http://www.ebay.com/itm/250913086027...84.m1497.l2649 The pictures from the seller are not the best ones but maybe you can share your thoughts about it with me. The ferrule is demaged a little bit but I think that it will be easy to repair this and I plan to fill it with resin again. Thank you, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 25th October 2011 at 06:44 PM. |
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IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT TO ME. NOT TOO MUCH WORK TO GET IT LOOKING GOOD AND PERHAPS A CLEANING AND ETCH OF THE BLADE MAY REVEAL A PATTERN. EITHER WAY NOT A BAD DEAL AT THE PRICE. CONGRADULATIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO PICTURES WHEN YOU GET IT CLEANED UP.
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Very good adquisition!! I´m sure that with a little of work you will have a beautiful barong in yor collection!!
Congratulations carlos |
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Hi Detlef, how are you? Perhaps you can use a spoon to bend the silver(?) ferrule back into its rounding?! What would you use as resin? (I always make resin by grinding a piece of BBQ charcoal fine, mix with woodglue. But this will turn very hard when dry; but perhaps not so suitable for ur 'job')
Good luck friend. Always a joy to turn an 'ugly duck' into an 'elegant swan' Best, Wouter |
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Thank you all for your kind words and tips!
![]() BTW, could it be a Samal barong? Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 29th October 2011 at 01:33 PM. |
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to much work at the moment! ![]() ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Yesterday I received the barong and I am pleased with it, special by the price I paid for. The front crest of the banati wood pommel is old broken what wasen't clearly to seen by the sellers pictures. The sleeve isn't from silver but from an alloy which is unknown for me, I think a german silver alloy. The wooden pommel is oiled with a good wood oil and shows a nice grain and good patina. The ferrule is bend out and need still a little care but is polished. The blade is partly polished and still need an etch. I will try to use the mixture Indianajones suggested for the resin alternative. Will post pictures when all work is done.
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gorgeous,
can't wait to see the blade etch, the photos seem to have hints of activity, maybe wishfull thinking. p.s. - superglue works wonders on hairline cracks in wood hilts. keep wicking it in till it's full then it can be sanded or trimmed flush & crack is essentially gone forever. |
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Thank you for your kind words, hope as well to see a laminated blade! ![]() I am not a fan of superglue by restoration and the cracks are very minor. I have oiled the wood and hope that the cracks don't become bigger and the patina is very nice and will be going by sanding. Regards, Detlef |
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if they're not structurally significant, i'd not use superglue either
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Just etched the blade and was positively surprised since the blade have a very nice lamination. Now only need to fill again the open space from the ferrule. Will post pictures when all work is done. I think the investment from 70$ was ok!
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beautiful pattern, sajen! what did you use to etch?
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I have used vinegar. Heated the blade and the vinegar as well. Regards, Detlef |
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All work is done now! I have used the mixture Indiana suggested. What do you think?
Regards, Detlef |
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Hi Detlef,
well nice result for so far, not? I would perhaps carefully cut off the black resin going over the 'edges' and as it looks a bit dry -in comparisson to how the resin should look- put a bit brown wax on it (just on the black resin) (and some dust?). B.tw. if the blade was forged with 'layers' it would still clearly have been visible when you bought it. The blade would have a yellowish hue (sometimes rainbowhues) and show thin black outlined 'clouds'. The silverish metal is probably a well used mixture of silver and nickel, obtained from melting down coins. Your "tribal town-neighbour" (you know who I mean!?) has a nice barong with layers I believe at the moment. Best greets, Walter |
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Hi Wouter, yes, I am as well pleased by the result! Thank you for the tip. ![]() |
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Hi Wouter, yes of course I know who you mean. He have not only one, so far I know he have two or three, two I have hold in my hands, very nice examples and much better as mine! ![]() Greets, Detlef |
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Hi, thought to share some pics of a layered-forged Barong blade -or how d heck does one call it?!?- as it is totally untouched for decades (no use of vinegar at all). Still sharp as . . . . . well one can easily shave with it
![]() Although it looks the small handle protusion below has been broken, they are actually thread-remains as the top of the handle once also had some sort of woven covering (like the black bands). Greets |
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excellent job, detlef!!!
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think that it received an etch at one point in it's history. Beautiful blade! Greets, Detlef |
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R' you gonna make a scabbard for your 'baby' ? I like that protusion on top of the handle, almost like a hens' comb (you know, that lobe on top of a hens' head). They do like a good hens' fight overthere! It also has a nice wellused patine.
Thankfully the scabbards for these are quite simple to make; 2 boards cut in the particular form, scrape away the form of the blade from both boardsurfaces n bind the two together with some loose rattan from your old garden chair (IF you got rattan gardenchairs! he he he). Voilah!! Actually this sounds much more fun than buying one in good condition! ![]() 'hands-on-antiques' Also saw your other lowland? tenegre; your getting a nice Philippine arms collection! Succes! |
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when I will have one day boredom it will be a project! ![]() ![]() Greets, Detlef |
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![]() the bits tend to get broken off tho. this thread, tho old, has a lot of barong rebuild tips... LINKY it also shows this member's barong with all it's kakatua bits, as well as a newly made silver one for a restoration. Last edited by kronckew; 8th February 2012 at 05:02 PM. |
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Detlef, Congratulations on the very nice restoration work that you have done. Now that you have it looking so good I am looking forward to seeing how you do on making a new scabbard for it. Please keep us posted on its progress.
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Nice job Detlef!!
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