Moro Kris with an odd pommel

kino · 23rd June 2014, 11:16 PM

Photos to share.
A Kris from Sulu. An odd pommel shape that I don't recall having encountered before. Pieces had been broken off so it's hard to tell what it looked originally. Slender blade has 5 waves.
Blade fits into the scabbard, but not made for the sword.
OAL 24", blade length 19". width of blade 1"

CharlesS · 24th June 2014, 12:01 AM

Kino,

This is a lovely, interesting piece, per usual from you!

I have one with a very similar pommel and I have always considered it a stylized version of the sarimanok (Moro chicken motif). I sorta look at this a a different version in much the same way we see a variety of versions of Jawa Demam on Indonesian and Malay kerises.The blade of mine is similar in size as well.

Of course I could very well be wrong and have wondered if it had more to do with a stylized flower motif.

I am traveling at the moment, but will try to post a pic of mine to this thread when I get back home.

kino · 24th June 2014, 04:50 AM

Thanks Charles and an interesting concept In an abstract way...it could be.
Looking forward to viewing the photos of yours.
A photo of a Sarimanok, the fish is missing.

CharlesS · 19th July 2014, 03:17 PM

Kino,

Here is mine for comparison of the pommel styles. This pommel is made of green horn. You can certainly see the similarities.

23rd June 2014, 11:16 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,001	Moro Kris with an odd pommel Photos to share. A Kris from Sulu. An odd pommel shape that I don't recall having encountered before. Pieces had been broken off so it's hard to tell what it looked originally. Slender blade has 5 waves. Blade fits into the scabbard, but not made for the sword. OAL 24", blade length 19". width of blade 1" Attached Images

24th June 2014, 04:50 AM	#3
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,001	Thanks Charles and an interesting concept In an abstract way...it could be. Looking forward to viewing the photos of yours. A photo of a Sarimanok, the fish is missing. Attached Images

19th July 2014, 03:17 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Kino, Here is mine for comparison of the pommel styles. This pommel is made of green horn. You can certainly see the similarities. Attached Images

24th June 2014, 12:01 AM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Kino, This is a lovely, interesting piece, per usual from you! I have one with a very similar pommel and I have always considered it a stylized version of the sarimanok (Moro chicken motif). I sorta look at this a a different version in much the same way we see a variety of versions of Jawa Demam on Indonesian and Malay kerises.The blade of mine is similar in size as well. Of course I could very well be wrong and have wondered if it had more to do with a stylized flower motif. I am traveling at the moment, but will try to post a pic of mine to this thread when I get back home.