Need cartouche translation for a large SHIPS CANNON 'LANTAKA'

Cerjak · 30th April 2018, 07:21 PM

This cannon is with a beautiful aged patina., in. on a hinged swivel, on his original wooden stand .I would appreciate if a member could give me the translation for the cartouche riveted on top of the breech.
Overall 148 cm weight Circa 51 kg , 30 mm calibre.
Any comment about exact origin and period will be welcome.
Best
Cerjak

Cerjak · 7th May 2018, 04:32 PM

Nobody to help me for the translation or at least a clue ?

Battara · 8th May 2018, 01:02 AM

One problem is that one of our best Arabic translators died a while back.

The other problem is that this might not be Arabic but Jawi, Arabic script modified to one of the Indonesian or Philippine languages. The only person who can help with some Jawi is Oliver, and he is crazy busy until June (?).

A final problem is that part of the inscription is missing.

Please have some patience with us.

Cerjak · 8th May 2018, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

One problem is that one of our best Arabic translators died a while back.

The other problem is that this might not be Arabic but Jawi, Arabic script modified to one of the Indonesian or Philippine languages. The only person who can help with some Jawi is Oliver, and he is crazy busy until June (?).

A final problem is that part of the inscription is missing.

Please have some patience with us.

Hello Battara
I will wait for the necessary time, yes I need patience it, is exciting to find pieces with inscription we always hope to discover information revealed by their translation.
I add extra pics of this cartridge;
Best
Cerjak

fernando · 8th May 2018, 03:46 PM

Bonjour Jean-Luc,
So the seller didn't give you any clue on the provenance (origin) of your beautiful lantaka ...

josh stout · 21st May 2018, 06:12 PM

Just a thought. I have seen a very similar example that was definitively from Thailand. I know nothing of the script, but the decoration looks very like the Thai example, and quite different than ones from the Philippines.

30th April 2018, 07:21 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Need cartouche translation for a large SHIPS CANNON 'LANTAKA' This cannon is with a beautiful aged patina., in. on a hinged swivel, on his original wooden stand .I would appreciate if a member could give me the translation for the cartouche riveted on top of the breech. Overall 148 cm weight Circa 51 kg , 30 mm calibre. Any comment about exact origin and period will be welcome. Best Cerjak Attached Images

7th May 2018, 04:32 PM	#2
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Nobody to help me for the translation or at least a clue ?

8th May 2018, 01:02 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	One problem is that one of our best Arabic translators died a while back. The other problem is that this might not be Arabic but Jawi, Arabic script modified to one of the Indonesian or Philippine languages. The only person who can help with some Jawi is Oliver, and he is crazy busy until June (?). A final problem is that part of the inscription is missing. Please have some patience with us.

8th May 2018, 03:46 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Bonjour Jean-Luc, So the seller didn't give you any clue on the provenance (origin) of your beautiful lantaka ...

21st May 2018, 06:12 PM	#6
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Just a thought. I have seen a very similar example that was definitively from Thailand. I know nothing of the script, but the decoration looks very like the Thai example, and quite different than ones from the Philippines.