new catch!

punal · 15th July 2006, 07:34 PM

just to share

punal · 15th July 2006, 07:39 PM

and this to

ibeam · 15th July 2006, 08:16 PM

Hello Punal,

Great aquisition on the twist core kris. Congrats dude!!

Any chance we can see a picture of the decoration on the silver plate on the top part of the the gaurd....is it decorated with okirr work??

Very nice display as well.

Henk · 15th July 2006, 08:24 PM

WOW!!!!

VANDOO · 15th July 2006, 10:35 PM

WOW INDEED!!

WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS QUALITY OF KERIS, OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN MANY HUNDREDS OF KRIS AND VERY FEW HAVE THE PATTERNED BLADES. THE SWASSA GRIP AND SILVER POMMEL AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE BRAIDED WIRE ON THE GRIP SET OFF THE BLADE NICELY. CONGRADULATIONS ON SOME REAL BEAUTIES.

sabertasche · 16th July 2006, 12:03 AM

That is BEAUTIFUL! Some day I'll find one for my museum....some day

Wonderful aquisition.

Greg

Spunjer · 16th July 2006, 12:36 PM

the twisted core panel is excellent! been wanting to get a hold of something similar to that. so i'm assuming you're done collecting then? (j/k). brad, just like what i beam requested, wouldn't mind seeing the top view of the pommel.

kai · 16th July 2006, 01:37 PM

Well, Punal, that wasn't very considerate of you - just think about how much skill and compassion that distinguished veteran put into mounting those blades on the plague...

Are my eyes betraying me or is that a hexagonal brass ferrule? If so, this seems to be a replacement hilt done in Luzon (there would have been a brass end plate fastened by a pin where you can see that hole in the pommel).

BTW, the twisted core Maranao kris is just gorgeous. I assume that's also swaasa inlay along the blade?

Regards,
Kai

kai · 16th July 2006, 02:18 PM

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just like what i beam requested, wouldn't mind seeing the top view of the pommel.

Top view of the gangya - me too, pretty please!

punal · 16th July 2006, 02:32 PM

thanks guys

punal · 16th July 2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

the twisted core panel is excellent! been wanting to get a hold of something similar to that. so i'm assuming you're done collecting then? (j/k). brad, just like what i beam requested, wouldn't mind seeing the top view of the pommel.

i had thought of quiting months ago (not nice being broke all time) but nice one's keeps popping up, been saying "my last one", for the past eight mos. and look at it

not an easy gig but i'll try

should shut my computers, home and at work

lost my digital camera while on my trip to northern cal. with my family, i had to borrow one yesterday and returned it back right away, i'll try to get it borrow it back again. the pommel though is a two piece construction, the top
and a band (nailed part) soldered/welded together, similar to ibeam's silver horse hoof pommel. though this one is circular, no orik.

here's the link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...RFB%3AIID&rd=1

punal · 16th July 2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Well, Punal, that wasn't very considerate of you - just think about how much skill and compassion that distinguished veteran put into mounting those blades on the plague...

Are my eyes betraying me or is that a hexagonal brass ferrule? If so, this seems to be a replacement hilt done in Luzon (there would have been a brass end plate fastened by a pin where you can see that hole in the pommel).

BTW, the twisted core Maranao kris is just gorgeous. I assume that's also swaasa inlay along the blade?

Regards,
Kai

kai,

i really like the plaque, but my heart belongs to the moro blade, i don't have any idea what the other pieces are but my home gym is just perfect for them

no, the new krises ferrule is not hexagonal, it is of brass construction similar to the other 18th c.kris with twist core. the pommel was carved from a carabao horn (octagonal).

not sure if the inlays on the the bigger kris with twist core is swaasa? but it look like similar material to bands on the handle. should have it checked.

thanks,
arnel

VANDOO · 16th July 2006, 03:52 PM

A RARE TURKISH KRIS LOL!

THAT WOULD BE RARE INDEED.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SAVE SOME OF THE PICTURES FROM THE AUCTION BEFORE THE KRIS WAS CLEANED TO SHOW THE NATURAL TARNISH ON THE SILVER ECT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT VERY GOOD PICTURES BUT THAT MAY HAVE HELPED YOU WIN THE KRIS , IF THE PICTURES WERE AS GOOD AS YOURS THE BIDDING WOULD HAVE GONE HIGHER. A SUPER DATU GRADE KERIS IN EVERY WAY, IF IT COULD ONLY TALK.
I WONDER WHERE THE SELLER GOT THE IDEA THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY JAPANESE?. I SUPOSE THE JAPANESE MAY ALSO HAVE BROUGHT HOME SOME MORO KRIS AND OTHER WEAPONS DURING WW2 SO PERHAPS IT WAS IN JAPAN AT SOME TIME? SO IT MIGHT BE WORTH ASKING THE SELLER WHY THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE IDEA, HE DOSEN'T KNOW MUCH BUT MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON WHERE AND HOW HE GOT IT. ITS GOOD TO KEEP EVEN THE SMALL BITS OF INFORMATION ESPECIALLY ON A KRIS AS NICE AS THIS ONE.

nechesh · 16th July 2006, 04:13 PM

OK Punal.....that first kris.....well, all i can say is....It's just not right!

Simply beautiful!

Ferguson · 16th July 2006, 05:31 PM

magnificent!

Steve

kai · 16th July 2006, 10:00 PM

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I WONDER WHERE THE SELLER GOT THE IDEA THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY JAPANESE?. I SUPOSE THE JAPANESE MAY ALSO HAVE BROUGHT HOME SOME MORO KRIS AND OTHER WEAPONS DURING WW2 SO PERHAPS IT WAS IN JAPAN AT SOME TIME?

I remember that "Japanese" auction - that was also what crossed my thought back then...

Actually, I didn't recognized this one from Arnel's nice pics - can someone get me up to speed with an ebay #? Thanks!

Regards,
Kai

kai · 16th July 2006, 10:45 PM

Hello Arnel,

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i really like the plaque

Well, I for one think you did a good deed to free this blade!

BTW, the Madurese keris might be pretty decent as well - post some pics of it and let the keris specialists have a look...

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i don't have any idea what the other pieces are but my home gym is just perfect for them

The nimcha is probably tourist or wedding ceremony quality.
No idea about that star dagger - Henk suggested a Moroccan or Filipino origin?

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no, the new krises ferrule is not hexagonal, it is of brass construction similar to the other 18th c.kris with twist core.

Thanks! I didn't realized that the pommel is octagonal which doesn't fit with my suggestion anway...

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not sure if the inlays on the the bigger kris with twist core is swaasa? but it look like similar material to bands on the handle. should have it checked.

Let us know - AFAIK it doesn't look like tarnished silver!

Regards,
Kai

punal · 16th July 2006, 11:40 PM

Let us know - AFAIK it doesn't look like tarnished silver!

Regards,
Kai

hi kai,

the silver pommel was tarnished, and the blade was very rusty when i rec'd it thursday afternoon, can't stand rust so i cleaned it up with a very fine sanding paper, and final polished it w/ mother's metal polishing paste including the handle/pommel, i have not etch the blade yet, may be next week when i have time again.

arnel

mross · 17th July 2006, 08:57 PM

Wow, nice catch indeed! I have to ask; Where did you land such a catch?

Battara · 18th July 2006, 01:50 AM

I was going to ask you to post that one. Wonderful puppy. Looks like the hilt is made of silver and swaasa. Would you also show the top of the hilt please?

Andrew · 18th July 2006, 05:07 AM

Oh, my.

15th July 2006, 07:34 PM	#1
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	new catch! just to share Attached Images

15th July 2006, 07:39 PM	#2
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	and this to Attached Images

15th July 2006, 08:16 PM	#3
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Wow Hello Punal, Great aquisition on the twist core kris. Congrats dude!! Any chance we can see a picture of the decoration on the silver plate on the top part of the the gaurd....is it decorated with okirr work?? Very nice display as well.

16th July 2006, 01:37 PM	#8
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Well, Punal, that wasn't very considerate of you - just think about how much skill and compassion that distinguished veteran put into mounting those blades on the plague... Are my eyes betraying me or is that a hexagonal brass ferrule? If so, this seems to be a replacement hilt done in Luzon (there would have been a brass end plate fastened by a pin where you can see that hole in the pommel). BTW, the twisted core Maranao kris is just gorgeous. I assume that's also swaasa inlay along the blade? Regards, Kai Attached Images Last edited by kai; 16th July 2006 at 02:26 PM. Reason: pic added ;)

15th July 2006, 08:24 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	WOW!!!!

15th July 2006, 10:35 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WOW INDEED!! WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS QUALITY OF KERIS, OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN MANY HUNDREDS OF KRIS AND VERY FEW HAVE THE PATTERNED BLADES. THE SWASSA GRIP AND SILVER POMMEL AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE BRAIDED WIRE ON THE GRIP SET OFF THE BLADE NICELY. CONGRADULATIONS ON SOME REAL BEAUTIES.

16th July 2006, 12:03 AM	#6
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	That is BEAUTIFUL! Some day I'll find one for my museum....some day Wonderful aquisition. Greg

16th July 2006, 12:36 PM	#7
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	the twisted core panel is excellent! been wanting to get a hold of something similar to that. so i'm assuming you're done collecting then? (j/k). brad, just like what i beam requested, wouldn't mind seeing the top view of the pommel.

16th July 2006, 02:32 PM	#10
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	thanks guys

16th July 2006, 03:52 PM	#13
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A RARE TURKISH KRIS LOL! THAT WOULD BE RARE INDEED. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SAVE SOME OF THE PICTURES FROM THE AUCTION BEFORE THE KRIS WAS CLEANED TO SHOW THE NATURAL TARNISH ON THE SILVER ECT. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT VERY GOOD PICTURES BUT THAT MAY HAVE HELPED YOU WIN THE KRIS , IF THE PICTURES WERE AS GOOD AS YOURS THE BIDDING WOULD HAVE GONE HIGHER. A SUPER DATU GRADE KERIS IN EVERY WAY, IF IT COULD ONLY TALK. I WONDER WHERE THE SELLER GOT THE IDEA THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY JAPANESE?. I SUPOSE THE JAPANESE MAY ALSO HAVE BROUGHT HOME SOME MORO KRIS AND OTHER WEAPONS DURING WW2 SO PERHAPS IT WAS IN JAPAN AT SOME TIME? SO IT MIGHT BE WORTH ASKING THE SELLER WHY THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE IDEA, HE DOSEN'T KNOW MUCH BUT MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON WHERE AND HOW HE GOT IT. ITS GOOD TO KEEP EVEN THE SMALL BITS OF INFORMATION ESPECIALLY ON A KRIS AS NICE AS THIS ONE.

16th July 2006, 04:13 PM	#14
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	OK Punal.....that first kris.....well, all i can say is....It's just not right! Simply beautiful!

16th July 2006, 05:31 PM	#15
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	magnificent! Steve

16th July 2006, 11:40 PM	#18
punal Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 91	Let us know - AFAIK it doesn't look like tarnished silver! Regards, Kai hi kai, the silver pommel was tarnished, and the blade was very rusty when i rec'd it thursday afternoon, can't stand rust so i cleaned it up with a very fine sanding paper, and final polished it w/ mother's metal polishing paste including the handle/pommel, i have not etch the blade yet, may be next week when i have time again. arnel

17th July 2006, 08:57 PM	#19
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Wow, nice catch indeed! I have to ask; Where did you land such a catch?

18th July 2006, 01:50 AM	#20
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,217	I was going to ask you to post that one. Wonderful puppy. Looks like the hilt is made of silver and swaasa. Would you also show the top of the hilt please?

18th July 2006, 05:07 AM	#21
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Oh, my.