Medieval shields / paveses / targes

Andi · 10th January 2013, 10:13 PM

fernando · 10th January 2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andi

... Due to copyright reasons I have not posted the images...

I don't get it, Andi; maybe my ignorance but ... you are posting the images, whether in the form of links or direct images.
No problem in doing that, though, once you are doing it on a fair use basis.
Please do upload the images; links are no good for forum archive purposes.
... And, by the way, i had the previlege to see these shields personally; outsanding examples.

David · 11th January 2013, 05:14 AM

I will second Fernando's remark here. Posting these images here would not be a copyright problem and would be allowable under "fair usage". The problem with links is that they often disappear leaving discussions with no visual examples years later. Probably less likely to happen with links to the Met, but you never know...

Awesome shields BTW..

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:31 PM

Sorry! I understand.

Here in Germany it is delicate to publish copyrighted marterial in forums as a lot of lawyers are making a good business issuing extremely expensive written warnings to the forum owners or users

Here are the images:

The last number in the file name is following the links mentioned in my earlier post. The file name contains the short description and dating of the shields according to MET-Museums pages.

Andi · 11th January 2013, 01:45 PM

And this is my absolute favourite shiels. The painting so so nice and especially the girl is depictes soo cute with excellent fine details of her clothing like the lacing of her dresses sleeve, or the collar of her undergarment. In case the painting is originally from the 1450s it is really extraordinary for its period and contemporary depictions can only be find by masters of arts. In my opinion it reaches the quality of paintings by the van Eyck brothers, Robert Campin, Rogier van der Weyden and others. (Just my opiniononly - cultural historians may disagree me

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Andi · 11th January 2013, 02:11 PM

From Italy Pavia dated to late 15th century at Glasgow Museums

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.co...tml?oid=152066

Andi · 11th January 2013, 02:20 PM

One of the Vienna shields dated to 1493-1508 at Bürgerliches Zeughaus

Unfortunately the image is a bit poor.

http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/k.../html/2824.htm

Andi · 11th January 2013, 02:38 PM

This one can be seen at Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München. It shows a wild man holding a swinging an archaic mace and the coat of arms of the Bavarian City of Deggendorf. Ca 1450.

It was very hard to take this photo as the spotlights were blinking all over the object

fernando · 11th January 2013, 02:14 PM

Excelent feedback, Andi; thank you for that

Ah, i feel as if i were still there enjoying thr sight of these tournament shields

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I am with you on the favourite example choice; although i would also elect the one with the owl, with its peculiar motif and fascinating motto.
"Although I am the hated bird, I rather enjoy that."

10th January 2013, 10:13 PM	#1
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Medieval shields / paveses / targes The New York Metropolitan Museum of Art has some really nice medieval shields in its collection and some HD-Images on its website: http://www.metmuseum.org/collections...tions/40006290 http://www.metmuseum.org/collections...tions/40005369 http://www.metmuseum.org/collections...tions/40011274 http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections...tions/40005181 http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections...tions/40001569 http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections...tions/40001548 A really outstanding nice shield: http://www.metmuseum.org/collections...tions/40001083 The standing shields from Erfurt unfortunately without images: http://www.metmuseum.org/collections...tions/40001549 http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections...tions/40001062 Due to copyright reasons I have not posted the images.

11th January 2013, 01:31 PM	#4
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	Sorry! I understand. Here in Germany it is delicate to publish copyrighted marterial in forums as a lot of lawyers are making a good business issuing extremely expensive written warnings to the forum owners or users Here are the images: The last number in the file name is following the links mentioned in my earlier post. The file name contains the short description and dating of the shields according to MET-Museums pages. Attached Images

11th January 2013, 01:45 PM	#5
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	And this is my absolute favourite shiels. The painting so so nice and especially the girl is depictes soo cute with excellent fine details of her clothing like the lacing of her dresses sleeve, or the collar of her undergarment. In case the painting is originally from the 1450s it is really extraordinary for its period and contemporary depictions can only be find by masters of arts. In my opinion it reaches the quality of paintings by the van Eyck brothers, Robert Campin, Rogier van der Weyden and others. (Just my opiniononly - cultural historians may disagree me ) Attached Images Last edited by Andi; 11th January 2013 at 01:55 PM. Reason: added image

11th January 2013, 02:11 PM	#6
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	From Italy Pavia dated to late 15th century at Glasgow Museums http://collections.glasgowmuseums.co...tml?oid=152066 Attached Images

11th January 2013, 02:20 PM	#7
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	One of the Vienna shields dated to 1493-1508 at Bürgerliches Zeughaus Unfortunately the image is a bit poor. http://wwwg.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/k.../html/2824.htm Attached Images Last edited by Andi; 12th January 2013 at 10:43 AM.

11th January 2013, 05:14 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,126	I will second Fernando's remark here. Posting these images here would not be a copyright problem and would be allowable under "fair usage". The problem with links is that they often disappear leaving discussions with no visual examples years later. Probably less likely to happen with links to the Met, but you never know... Awesome shields BTW..

11th January 2013, 02:38 PM	#8
Andi Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Halstenbek, Germany Posts: 203	This one can be seen at Bayerisches Nationalmuseum München. It shows a wild man holding a swinging an archaic mace and the coat of arms of the Bavarian City of Deggendorf. Ca 1450. It was very hard to take this photo as the spotlights were blinking all over the object Attached Images

11th January 2013, 02:14 PM	#9
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Excelent feedback, Andi; thank you for that Ah, i feel as if i were still there enjoying thr sight of these tournament shields . I am with you on the favourite example choice; although i would also elect the one with the owl, with its peculiar motif and fascinating motto. "Although I am the hated bird, I rather enjoy that."